hi i am hoping someone can help me i am trying to find my mums father and his other dependants i know that he must have died as the only record that i can find he died in 1968 aged 71 years as i cant find another a emsden i am new to this and cant figure out how to search
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Welcome to the boards, Michelle.
Are you saying that this is his death, and have you applied for the death certificate for more information?
Arthur Emsden Birth Date: abt 1897 Date of Registration: Dec 1968 Age at Death: 71 Registration District: Luton Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 156
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This marriage is from free bmd - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Dec 1922 Emsden Arthur Tomkins Luton 3b 1015 Tomkins Dorothea Emsden Luton 3b 1015
?? Dorothea Emsden Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Jun 1965 Age at Death: 77 Registration District: Dunstable Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 110
Added: ? England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Dorothea Tomkins Name: Dorothea Tomkins [Dorothea Tomlin] Gender: Female Age: 34 Birth Date: 1888 Marriage Date: 3 Oct 1922 Marriage Place: Woodside, Bedford, England Father: Thomas Francis Tomlin Spouse: Arthur Emsden FHL Film Number: 1595488 Reference ID: 115
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Could you say what your mother's name was - I am trying to work out surnames?
? 1911 England Census Thomas Francis Tomphin Age in 1911: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation to Head: Head Birth Place: Newton, Long Villa Civil Parish: Caddington County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street Address: Slip End, Luton Years Married: 30 Estimated Marriage Year: 1881 Occupation: General Labourer Registration District: Luton Registration District Number: 178 Sub-registration District: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household Schedule Number: 205 Piece: 9026 Thomas Francis Tomphin 67 Mary Tomphin 63 Dorothy Tomphin 23 (Looks like Dorothea) Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 9026; Schedule Number: 205.
Added: ? Births Jun 1888 TOMPKINS Dorothea Newport P. 3a 733
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Births Jun 1897 Emsden Arthur Marylebone 1a 556
HIS GRANDMOTHER Marriages Sep 1878 Bassett Lavinia Chelsea 1a 518 Emsden Henry Osborne Chelsea 1a 518
HER FIRST MARRIAGE Marriages Jun 1869 BASSETT George Westminster St. M. 1a 648 Clark Lavinia Westminster 1a 648
Lavinia had 3 children according to 1911 Census Births Dec 1879 Emsden Annie Esther E Chelsea 1a 356 Births Mar 1886 EMSDEN Emily Beatrice Chelsea 1a 396 Births Sep 1872 BASSETT George Herman Kensington 1a 165
Marriages Mar 1914 EMSDEN Annie E E Kingham Luton 3b 576 KINGHAM Samuel D Emsden Luton 3b 576
1911 Census Person: EMSDEN, Arthur Address: 172 North Street Luton
EMSDEN, Lavinia Head Widow F 60 1851 Plain Needlework Burbrook Essex EMSDEN, Esther Daughter Single F 31 1880 Cardboard Box Maker Chelsea London EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 24 1887 Lining Runner Straw Trade Chelsea London EMSDEN, Arthur Grandson M 13 1898 School Hairdresser Boy St Mary Paddington
1901 Census 48, Duke Street, Luton Urban
EMSDEN, Lavinia Head Married F 50 1851 Laundress Birbrook, Essex EMSDEN, Esther Daughter Single F 21 1880 Card Board Box Maker Chelsea, London EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 15 1886 Straw Hat Machinist Chelsea, London EMSDEN, Arthur Son M 4 1897 Lambeth, London ( SHOULD BE GRANDSON ) BASSELL, George Son Single M 28 1873 Straw Hat Machinist South Kensington, London ( SURNAME CHANGED BACK incorrectly spelt )
Name: BASSETT, George H Registration district: Luton County: Bedfordshire Year of registration: 1948 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death:75 Volume no: 4A Page no: 123
1891 Census Address: 44, Marlborough Road, Chelsea
EMSDEN, Henry Head Married M 42 1849 Porter Barking, Suffolk EMSDEN, Lavinia Wife Married F 40 1851 Bastenend, Essex EMSDEN, George Son Single M 18 1873 Porter Brompton, London EMSDEN, Esther Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar Chelsea, London EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter F 5 1886 Chelsea, London THOMPSON, William Visitor Widower M 72 1819 Sign Writer St George, London
1881 Census Address: 66, Marlborough Rd, Chelsea
EMSDEN, Henry Osborn Head Married M 33 1848 Tailor Barking, Suffolk EMSDEN, Lavina Wife Married F 30 1851 Tailoress Burhook, Essex EMSDEN, Annie E E Daughter Single F 1 1880 Chelsea, Middlesex BASSETT, George H Stepson Single M 8 1873 Scholar Brompton, Middlesex STEPHENS, Elizabeth Lodger Widow F 49 1832 Dressmaker Newton, Devon DICKENSON, Sarah Lodger Single F 30 1851 Toft, Cambridgeshire
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Marriages Mar 1914 EMSDEN Annie E E Kingham Luton 3b 576 KINGHAM Samuel D Emsden Luton 3b 576
Births Mar 1917 KINGHAM Samuel V Emsden Luton 3b 582
Marriages Mar 1942 Day Gladys M Kingham Luton 3b 1336 Kingham Samuel V Day Luton 3b 1336
SADLY Name: KINGHAM, Samuel Victor Registration district: Luton County: Bedfordshire Year of registration: 2004 Month of registration: December Date of Birth:4 January 1917 District no: 315/1 Reg no: D5F Ent no: 245 DOR: 1204
SON FROM MARRIAGE BORN IN 1947
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When was your mother born? And where?
What is/was her first name?
Were her parents married?
Is she alive?
Why do you think that the 1968 death is for her father?
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No births recorded for Emsden/Tomkins marriage............................
Searching will be easier when facts are provided.
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I was trying to verify that the surname was Tomkins, and so was hoping that Michelle would get back to us as nothing showing from the marriage.
I agree that she is looking for 'dependants'
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ON ANCESTRY PUBLIC FAMILY TREE
Birth: dd mm 1897 - London, England Death: date Marriage: date - city, Bedfordshire Spouse: Dorothea Tomkins F: Henry Osborne Emsden M: Lavinia Clarke
Arthur Emsden Birth: dd mm 1897 - London Death: date - city, Bedfordshire F: (Name Unknown) M: Annie Esther Elizabeth Emsden ( GUESSED RIGHT )
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Tracing back Mitchelle's mum is Hilda M Groom born 1933
WILL DELETE IF MITCHELLE REQUESTS AS NO HELP IN THIS SEARCH <<<<<<<
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