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My mother in law's maiden name was Gladys, the person on the 1911 census.

Sydney Morning Herald 8th December 1964

English, Rosanna Margaret December 7, 1964 at Camden District Hospital of Menangle and late of Elderside Widow of the late William John English beloved mother of Sid, ???, Frank (all deceased) Jim, Fanny, Ettie?*, Helena and Jack and grandmother, great grandmother and great great grandmother of their children. Aged 89 years.

The names after Sid and Fanny aren’t clear and too hard to read.


Gai

You 'believe' that Sidney and Albert were your m-i-l's brothers.......

Who was your m-i-l? What does her birth cert say about her parents?

There is NO birth on freebmd for Moulder with MMN English...............nor is there a marriage between those surnames.

The 'Ryerson Index' shows 'Rosanna Margaret English d 7/12/1964 aged 89yrs at Camden Dist Hospital -late of Menangle and Elderslie.
(SMH 8/12/1964). A 'look-up' request MAY help unravel these 'English' families!

Valerie

Sydney Morning Herald 23rd July 1974

English, Jack Edward – July 21 1974 (at Hospital), formerly of Picton Road, Menangle, loved father and father in law of Leon and and Beryl, Ronald, Colin, Mervyn (deceased) Peter and Denis and loved grandfather of this grandchildren

Gai

NSW/BMD shows:
1935 death of Francis A English
1937 death of Albert Ernest English
1974 death Jack Edward English
all showing same parents - William J & Rosan(n)ah Margaret

(suggest begin/check (early) QLD electoral rolls.

The 'National Archives of Aus' shows a John Henry English b 13/9/1908 enlisted in Qld (during 1939-48) -.nok Amy.

Valerie

Sydney Morning Herald 12th May 1955

English, Sidney Joseph – May 11, 1955 at Camden District hospital, late of Elderside, Camden, loved husband of Vera and dear father of Sid, Allen and Ray, aged 57 years. R.I.P

Just checked 'Trove' for Albert's death notice: SMH 26/7/37
Relatives & friends of
Mr & Mrs John English & Families of
Mr & Mrs James English
Mr & Mrs Sid English
Mr & Mrs R Rideout
Mr & Mrs F Clout
Miss Lena English
Mr & Mrs Jack English

son/bro/bro.in law/& Uncle of Albert Ernest English

Valerie

With individual names we might be able to identify them on Australian ER, selected ones to 1980 are on Ancestry.

We may find an English surname in the same household as ones you know about. That person might be a child or a daughter-in-law

Since you didn't give the names, I didn't know whether you didn't know them or had chosen not to put them here, for privacy (the wording of your initial message suggested that possibility).

The odds of a descendant being a member of this site are fairly low. However, not uncommonly, people find messages at this site when they do an internet search for a name.

It might be to your advantage then to list the names in this thread (or edit your opening post to put them there) so that if any descendant does that, they would find the thread. They would have to pay for a subscription in order to be able to contact you through the site's messaging system.

Of course, putting a tree here with the names of anyone who is deceased in it would also mean that someone who searched trees at this site for the names would find you. Just remember to keep your email address in your account here updated and no matter when that happened, you would receive notice that you had a message here and be able to reply to it (even if you no longer had a paid subscription).

There are no births with those names and middle names that fit though.

Rose

The information which has been forwarded to me including the 1911 census is on our files. In fact:

Wellie George was in fact William
Elbert was in fact Albert
Gladyest was in fact Gladys

The details regarding Sidney Joseph and Albert Ernest (birth dates) tie in with our records and the death dates are possibilities. We believe both these people were my mother-in-law's brothers (my husband's uncles. As mentioned in my original posting I believe my husband's eldest brother visited them around the early 1950's when he was in the merchant navy. We are hoping to hear of any descendants of Sidney and Albert.

Regards
Hazel

..the 'Ryerson Index' (on-line) shows these possible (?) deaths:
Sidney Joseph English d 11/5/1955 age 57yrs at Camden District Hosp. 'late of Elderslie' -notice in 'Sydney Morning Herald' 12/5/1955

(Elbert?)
Albert Ernest English d 25/7/1937 age 35yrs 'late of Elderslie'
death notice in 'Sydney Morning Herald 26/7/1937

'Ryersons' will do 'look-ups' of newspaper notices for family names etc.

Valerie

Hazel

Start by looking in 'search all trees'...........if anyone on GR is researching them, send a contact message

Do you know the names of the ones who emigrated?

that was the family I was referring to ... I didn't know whether Hazel wanted the names posted so that was why I asked ...

Is this the family you are referring to...

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Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ENGLISH, George
Address: 6 Fulbourne Road Walthamstow

ENGLISH, George Head Married M 37 1874 Station Engine Driver Stationery London VIEW
ENGLISH, Amy Wife Married15 years F 35 1876 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Wellie George Son M 14 1897 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Sidney Son M 12 1899 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Elbert Son M 10 1901 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Rachell Daughter F 9 1902 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Amy Daughter F 7 1904 London VIEW
ENGLISH, John Son M 4 1907 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Gladyest Daughter F 2 1909 London VIEW
ENGLISH, Ivy Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 9728
Reference: RG14PN9728 RG78PN514B RD188 SD10 ED54 SN245
Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Walthamstow
Enumeration District: 54
Parish: Walthamstow
Address: 6 Fulbourne Road Walthamstow
County: Essex


1901 England Census
about Amy English Name: Amy English
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George English
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthamstow, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 188
Piece: 1629
Folio: 78
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
George English 27
Amy English 25
William English 4
Sidney English 2



England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Amy Smith Name: Amy Smith
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 20
Father's Name: Thomas Smith
Spouse's Name: George English
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: William English
Marriage Date: 17 Apr 1897
Marriage Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England

If you click on "Search" above and then "Search all Members Trees" from the drop down menu....you will be able to find out if any other members have this family in their tree. If you find any connections, you can then contact the tree owner/owners.

Do you know the names of George & Amy's children or would you like to have them?

If I have the right couple, they married in 1897 and the 1911 census shows quite a large family, 8 children and I would think 2 more born after 1911 - English children with mother Smith born in West Ham:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

I am trying to trace members of family with surname of English who emigrated to Brisbane, Australia, from the East End of London / Walthamstow, England during 1910 - 1940. The parents names were George English and Amy English (nee Smith). Members of this family may recollect the name of Roy Moulder who visited whilst in the merchant navy early 1950's.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Hazel