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Ann

Ann Report 26 Oct 2013 23:06

has anyone got any idea of how to track down a lady called e. a. thomas [maiden name may be richardson] who was living in Erdington, Bormingham, England in 1958. I have tried the electoral register for 1957, but with no success as i do not know her first names. She registered the death of a mutual aunt.

patchem

patchem Report 26 Oct 2013 23:18

These are possible marriages of E a Richardson to Thomas from free bmd - do either make sense?

Marriages Sep 1919
Richardson Eliza A Thomas Wrexham 11b 617

Marriages Mar 1927
RICHARDSON Ethel A THOMAS Bangor 11b 633

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 26 Oct 2013 23:33

The electoral register in 1957 is searchable by address only so first names won't help you.
I assume you have no address for her?
Jan

patchem

patchem Report 27 Oct 2013 07:09

There are quite a few deaths of E A Thomas in the Birmingham area and Warwickshire area.

Could you give us the name of your aunt, and information about her siblings and husband, as there are several ways of acquiring the 'aunt' relationship.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2013 09:30

Is her address on the death cert?

And what is her 'qualification' on said cert? i.e. her authority to register the death

What have you done to try to identify her?

Ann

Ann Report 27 Oct 2013 19:51

E A Thomas registered the death of Jennie Friedrichs in 1957 . E A Thomas was her niece and they lived at the same address. However, aunty Jenny was born in Gateshead in 1878, never married and moved to Taunton in Somerset where she lived until the early 1950s. Our family lost touch with her and she moved to Erdington where she died in 1958. We had relatives called Richardson in the Birmingham area and the last word of them is in the 1911 census. I think E A Thomas must from that family but no one with whom I am in touch has heard of her. The address is on the death certificate.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 27 Oct 2013 22:07

Hi Ann.
The best thing is to check the address on the electoral register. Hopefully she will show up on there.
You need to do this in person, or ask a member of staff to do so - they may charge.
Alternatively, I shall be visiting the archives at some point and would be happy to check for you.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Oct 2013 20:02

I have been in touch with Ann re. electoral register lookup. It seems the person in question is Ethel A. Thomas.

I am happy to check out register when I visit the archives. However, having had a bit of a rummage, I might have found something.

Searching on Ancestry for the address on the cert, this person turns up:

UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946 Schools, Directories & Church
Name: Victor Thomas
Residence: 1940 - Warwickshire, England

So??

Marriages Sep 1924 (
Mordike Ethel A Thomas Birmingham N. 6d 1395
Thomas Victor R Mordike Birmingham N. 6d 1395

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Mordike Ethel Ann Aston 6d 339

1911 England Census about Ethel Mordike
Name: Ethel Mordike
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Erdington
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 28 St Thomas Road Gravelly Hill
Registration District: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration District: Erdinton

Thomas Mordike 41
Mary Mordike 34
Ethel Mordike 11
Frederick Mordike 9
Leslie Mordike 5
Norman Mordike 4

Solved I think - you say Richardson is a family name:

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
Dennis Harry Aston 6d 860
Mordike Thomas Paul Aston 6d 860
Price Jennie Evangeline Aston 6d 860
Richardson Mary Jane Aston 6d 860

What do you think?

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 Oct 2013 20:04

Mary Mordike (nee Richardson) was born in Sunderland - this must be the right family.
Jan

patchem

patchem Report 31 Oct 2013 20:47

?
Ethel Ann Thomas
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1899
Date of Registration: Jan 1986
Age at Death: 86
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 32
Page: 117

patchem

patchem Report 31 Oct 2013 20:56


1901 England Census
Mary Mosdike Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Mosdike
Gender: Female Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Aston Brook St Mary
County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration District: Aston Sub-registration District: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Household Schedule Number: 44 Piece: 2871 Folio: 113
Page Number: 8
Thomas Mosdike 31 stationery engine driver Manchester
Mary Mosdike 24
Ethel A Mosdike 1
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2871; Folio: 113; Page: 8.

patchem

patchem Report 31 Oct 2013 20:59

There are quite a few Mary jane's around, but this one looks promising:

1891 England Census
Mary J Richardson Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Haley Richardson
Mother's Name: Ann Richardson
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Erdington
Town: Erdington County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration District: Aston Sub-registration District: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 2425 Folio: 41 Page Number: 18
Haley Richardson 46
Ann Richardson 43
Lindsey S Richardson 19
Thomas H Richardson 16
Mary J Richardson 14
Eleanor Richardson 6
Rosa A Richardson 5
Henry Richardson 4
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2425; Folio: 41; Page: 18; GSU Roll: 6097535.

Ann

Ann Report 3 Nov 2013 20:42

Grateful thanks to brummiejan and to patchem for discovering so much about Ethel A Thomas and family. My research mostly has been in Scotland and I am not so familiar with the English system. You have found so much info for me that I will be kept busy for ages. Jenny Friedrichs was the sister of Lindsay Todd Richardson's wife who died in childbirth in 1907 so I don't think she was a blood relative of Jenny and that threw me too.
Thank you both so much
Ann

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 3 Nov 2013 22:41

Mystery solved then you think?
I am sure the above sorts it out, but I shall double-check the electoral register anyway. Birmingham has a brand new central library which I haven't visited yet, so it will be good practice!
Jan