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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1327622

Use freebmd to look for Michael's death.

Don't get hooked on spelling..................the enumerator wrote what he thought...........as the people themselves were almost all illiterate

And you also have to allow for transcription errors............

Thanks for the look ups your time is very much appreciated.

I have made contact with someone who has one of Edward and Louisa's Daughter in their tree...and I have sent messages to 3 other possibles....

the census I refer to I got from this site...

My aim is to find anyone who has this family in their tree.. its only been a couple of weeks since I found Edward who is my Grandfathers Brother and the marriage certificate that came this week proves that..... ..My Grandfather always said he had 2 Brothers one of whom died very young from drowning in the Thames.......having now found Edward we are assuming that Michael is the one who drowned...........He is on the 1891 census as Mikiel MURRY but no where to be found on the 1901 census... My Granadfather on that census is living with his Grandmother and Aunt an Uncle.... ........... we dont know what our Grandfather would call "very young" because in 1891 Michael was 8....9 when their Mother died.....................he could have drowned any time from 1891-1901......( 8 years to 18) my Idea of "very young " would be not long after his Mum died...

If I find closer relatives than the chap I am already in contact with then maybe I will find out what happened to My Great Grandparents.. David and Mary Welch......I am hoping Edward was a great story teller like my Grandad and that memories of home were passed down to the Grandkids.......though from what we are learning now Edward didnt move far from where he was born...

Michael Edward's Father we think came accross from Ireland by himself..on the 1861 census he is living in Stebondale Street no other MURRY spelt anlyway

My Grandfather lost contact with his Sisters during the War .. my Aunt says that she was about 12 the last time he received a letter from anyone in England.... When I found Mary Ann had married Thomas SAVAGE My Aunt said the names are now starting to come back to her.... so we are on the right track... but she couldnt remember anything about Edward..

What you have found has been an enormous help...

the name changes several times from MURRY, MURREY to MURRAY so we really have to look hard

thanks again
Jan

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
BURKE Timothy Poplar 1c 1242
Foren Ellen Poplar 1c 1242
MURRAY Michael Poplar 1c 1242
Welch Bridget Poplar 1c 1242

1891 England Census
Name: Bridget Murry
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Mikiell Murry
Gender: Female
Where born: Millwall, London, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 335
Folio: 75
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Mikiell Murry 48
Bridget Murry 36
Mary A Murry 15
Nelly Murry 12
Thomas Murry 2
Mikiell Murry 8
Thomas Hollon 28 Boarder


ALL Murray family born Millwall

Where did you get your info about Edward's parentage?

Is this the one you think was his mother?

Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%)
Murray Bridget 34 Poplar 1c 401

And his father?

Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
Murray Michael 45 Poplar 1c 406

1901 England Census
Name: Edward Murray
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, London, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 265
Piece: 357
Folio: 27
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Savage 25
Mary Savage 24
Celena Savage 6
Thomas Savage 2
Agnes Savage 3/12
Edward Murray 20

Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)

Murray Mary Ann Poplar 1c 1051
Savage Thomas Poplar 1c 1051

From which website have you obtained the 1901 census info to which you refer?

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Elizabeth Esther Courts
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 May 1838
Father's Name: Thomas Courts
Mother's Name: Sarah Courts
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Elizabeth Esther Courts
Spouse Name: George Henry Bowditch
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Oct 1859
Parish: Stepney St Thomas
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Thomas Courts
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Bowditch
Register Type: Parish Register

1841 England Census
Name: George Bowditch
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Anne Limehouse
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 701
Book: 8
Folio: 23
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Bowditch 48
Maria Bowditch 45
Thomas Bowditch 11
George Bowditch 8

1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Bowditch
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Bowditch
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bowditch
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 192
Piece: 587
Folio: 127
Page Number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
George Bowditch 38
Elizabeth Bowditch 33
Sarah Bowditch 11
George Bowditch 8
Henry Bowditch 3
Mary Bowditch 4 Months
Henry Bowditch 19

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Thomas John Bowditch
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Apr 1852
Father's Name: Thomas Barker Bowditch
Mother's Name: Ann Bowditch
Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Thomas John Bowditch
Spouse Name: Sarah Elizabeth Bowditch
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 6 Apr 1879
Parish: Poplar Christ Church
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

1891 England Census
Name: Louise Bowditch
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas J Bowditch
Mother's Name: Sarah E Bowditch
Gender: Female
Where born: Bromley E, London, England
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 333
Folio: 116
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas J Bowditch 39
Sarah E Bowditch 41
Ann E Bowditch 7
Louise Bowditch 7
John L Bowditch 2/12

Have you followed the advice about using 'search trees'.?

Ditto about using freebmd..................

And what exactly do you wish to know?

Thanks for the look ups I think you have the right people.... Michael MURRAY born in 1913 I believe is the right one....

Parents of Edward MURRAY are Michael MURRAY and Bridget WELCH Bridget died in 1892 and Michael died 1898.. 1901 Edward was living with a Sister Mary Ann and Her Husband Thomas SAVAGE..

Parents of Louisa BOWDITCH ..so far from the Marriage Cert I can only confirm the Father Thomas John BOWDITCH..who was born in 1852 Mother I think is Sarah maiden name is also BOWDITCH

Louisa Death in 1949 sounds like the right one......

Jan

Suggestion ONLY

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Michael Murray
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1913
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1983
Age at Death: 70
Registration district: Tower Hamlets
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 0986

Thomas was registered as Thomas P......................

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Louisa Murray
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1949
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 436