any messenger living in Cheltenham London with connections back to Charles messenger shoe maker Cheltenham :-)
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Try the BT phone book
Look in search trees
And give some dates if you want help
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I take it this is the man to whom you refer?
1911 census
Person: MESSENGER, Charles Address: 2 Manchester Square MESSENGER, Charles Head Married M 60 1851 Shoe Maker Cheltenham Glos VIEW MESSENGER, Sarah Ann Wife Married32 years F 53 1858 Biddestone Wilts VIEW HANDSLEY, Elizabeth Boarder Single F 35 1876 Dressmaker Lincoln VIEW SANDLES, Ellen Visitor Single F 31 1880 Music Teacher Boulton on the Water Glos
4 children.................only one of whom is living
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From GlosBMD site
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry MESSENGER Amy J MESSENGER MESSENGER ALLSOP 1884 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 95 152 MESSENGER Clara A MESSENGER MESSENGER ALLSOP 1880 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 86 320 MESSENGER Elizabeth MESSENGER MESSENGER ALLSOP 1879 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 83 357 MESSENGER Francis C MESSENGER MESSENGER ALLSOP 1882 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 91 228
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Deaths Jun 1882 (>99%) Messenger Clara Anne 1 Cheltenham 6a 255 Deaths Jun 1885 (>99%) Messenger Amy Jane 0 Cheltenham 6a 278 Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%) Messenger Francis Charles 4 Cheltenham 6a 335
As the only surviving child was female, there will be no descendants named Messenger, unless they were illegitimate
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1901
Name: Elizabeth Messenger Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Messenger Mother's name: Sarah Messenger Gender: Female Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cheltenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 41 Piece: 2466 Folio: 30 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Charles Messenger 52 Sarah Messenger 45 Elizabeth Messenger 21 Emily Bryant 37
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Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry RICHARDSON John MESSENGER Elizabeth Cheltenham Cheltenham St Mary 1905 19 298
1911 census
Person: RICHARDSON, Elizabeth Address: 19 Albion Parade Market St Cheltenham RICHARDSON, John Head Married M 32 1879 Tramcar Conductor Beckford Glos VIEW RICHARDSON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1880 Cheltenham Glos VIEW RICHARDSON, Gladys Daughter F 4 1907 Cheltenham Glos VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 15542 Reference: RG14PN15542 RG78PN947 RD333 SD2 ED7 SN39 Registration District: Cheltenham Sub District: Cheltenham Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Cheltenham
Children's births
RICHARDSON Gladys V(ictoria) RICHARDSON RICHARDSON MESSENGER 1906 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 17A 467 RICHARDSON Mabel RICHARDSON RICHARDSON MESSENGER 1913 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 29A
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Marriage?
TANDY Albert J RICHARDSON Gladys V Cheltenham Cheltenham St Mary 1934 22
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Now you can look for births...........
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
OR freebmd
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Albert James Tandy Name: Albert James Tandy Probate Date: 28 Feb 1952 Death Date: 5 Aug 1951 Death Place: Warwickshire, England Registry: London, England
Probate granted to Gladys Victoria Tandy (widow)
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Great Britain, Royal Aero Club Aviators’ Certificates, 1910-1950 about Albert James Tandy Name: Albert James Tandy Birth Date: 5 Jan 1907 Birth Location: Cheltenham, Glos
Dated 8.2.39
Albert's occupation: Motor mechanic
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Name: Albert James Tandy Age in 1911: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Winchcombe Civil parish: Studley County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: Station Rd Studley Redditch Registration district: Alcester Registration District Number: 395 Sub-registration district: Feckenham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Piece: 18816 Household Members: Name Age Albert Tandy 31 Fanny Tandy 30 Albert James Tandy 4
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