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turners in bilston

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karen54321

karen54321 Report 30 Dec 2011 10:58

i did come across this one but i found this

1901 Census Record




Name

William Turner
Relation to Head of Family
Head
Age Last Birthday
67
Sex
Male
Profession or Occupation

Mechanical Engineer At Inn Works
Condition as to Marriage

Widower
Where Born
Salop Oakengates
Address
Holyhead Road Side
Civil Parish
Wombridge
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Oakengates
Ecclesiastical Parish
Holy Trinity Oakengates
Parliamentary Borough or Division
Mid Or Wellington Division
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District
Oakengates
Administrative County
ShropshireWard of Municipal Borough or Urban District
Wombridge Ward Oakengates Urban District
but on williams first marriage certificate in 1897 hes says his dad has passed away un less hes telling lies so confusing

patchem

patchem Report 30 Dec 2011 00:12

This William was born in Trench and has a Father William - would he have lied about his age?
1881 England Census
William Turner
Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son Father's Name: William Turner
Mother's name: Emma Turner
Gender: Male Where born: Trench, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Wombridge County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: New Road Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Wellington Sub-registration district: Wombridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 2682 Folio: 14 Page Number: 19
William Turner 41 Engine Fitter
Emma Turner 44
Emma Turner 14
William Turner 11
Joseph Turner 8
Solomon Turner 5
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2682; Folio: 14; Page: 19; GSU roll: 1341643.

Births Dec 1869
TURNER William Wellington, Sh. 6a 774
Births Sep 1871
TURNER William Wellington,Sh. 6a 760

karen54321

karen54321 Report 29 Dec 2011 23:59

those r the right ones salop french should be trench they have his age wrong and ruby should be reuben vernon but i cant get no further back

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2011 23:57

Oakengates comes under Wellington:
Births Jun 1875
Turner William Henry Wellington, Sh. 6a 810

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2011 23:54

?
Ruby or Ruben?
1901 England Census William Turner Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mirian Turner Gender: Male
Where born: Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Bilston Ecclesiastical parish: Bilston St Luke
County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street Address: 3 Shaw Yard
Occupation:coal miner Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 105 Piece: 2689 Folio: 180 Page Number: 15
William Turner 25
Mirian Turner 23
William Turner 2
Ruby V Turner 1
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2689; Folio: 180; Page: 15.

Deaths Jun 1907
TURNER Miriam 29 Wolverhampton 6b 361

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2011 23:36

Do you know where in Shropshire he was born?
Do you know if any of his children were born before 1911 so we can try and find him in the 1911 census?
Which were his 2 marriages, as you did not mention them initially?
Also, what was his occupation from his marriage certificates?
Thank-you.

Added:
Did Jax find the second marriage?
Age has been altered from 37
1911
TURNER, William Head Married M 27 1884 Corn Warehouseman Salop French (?)
TURNER, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 3 years 2 children, 1 living F 22 1889 Bilston Staffs
TURNER, William Son M 13 1898 School Bilston Staffs
TURNER, Ruben Francis Son M 11 1900 School Bilston Staffs
TURNER, Marriam Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1902 School Bilston Staffs
TURNER, Henry Edward Son M 7 1904 School Bilston Staffs
TURNER, Elizabeth Mary Daughter F 1 1910 Bilston Staffs

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17118 Reference: RG14PN17118 RG78PN1054 RD369 SD7 ED7 SN111
Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Bilston Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Bilston
Address: 10 Bissell St Bilston County: Staffordshire

karen54321

karen54321 Report 29 Dec 2011 22:59

hi i have all of that information its where william turner came from he was born in shropshire but he doesnt appear on any of the cencus his father is called william turner but has died before his first marriage all it says is he was a labourer. i have his death certificate and his 2 marriage certifiacates not sure which birth certificate 2 order.

patchem

patchem Report 29 Dec 2011 19:55

If this is William's death then he was born about 1874/1875
Deaths Mar 1937
Turner William 62 Bilston 6b 673

jax

jax Report 29 Dec 2011 18:01

??

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
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TURNER William Wolverhampton 6b 648
Webster Mary Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 648

jax

jax Report 29 Dec 2011 17:39

Welcome to the boards Karen

Have you tried looking for the births on freebmd?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

then looking for them in the search trees, if you find a connection you can then send a message

karen54321

karen54321 Report 29 Dec 2011 16:32

hi was wondering if anyone could help me? im looking for anyone who new of the turner family in bilston they lived right by the market there was william and mary who was known as polly turner. william died in 1937 in the alley, there children were william, mirriam henry, (hench) joseph, arthur, frederick ,richard, and sarahann edna who went by the name edna. ithink they have all passed now but if anyone has anything they could tell me about them it would be greatly recieved. thanks karen.