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Frederick jnr was living with his nan which was ellen missen in 1911

and i believe he was brought up by her

Where was Frederick jnr in 1911?

What i know is frederick john baker married my great nan harriett springer in 1902 dec. she died in may 1904 and thay had a son frederick my grandad in 1903.

Frederick john baker remarried in 1905 to mary elizabeth meggs in may
1905 and i have the marriage certificate but the 1911 census said he was married to this woman 9 years.

And i have the birth certificate of alfred walter baker

But i dont know where this ellen caroline came from

Sue

Have you been able to find Ellen's birth reg'n?

But, as they lied about the length of the marriage.............

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Baker Frederick John W.Ham 4a 620
MEGGS Mary Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 620


..................it's entirely possible that the girl was the child of them both, born illegitimately

Was MEGGS the woman's maiden name?

1911 for INFO

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BAKER, Alfred Walter
Address: 63 Lancaster Road Leytonstone


BAKER, Fredrick John Head Married M 38 1873 Costermonger London Dalston VIEW
BAKER, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
10 years F 32 1879 Essex Leyton VIEW
BAKER, Ellen Caroline Daughter F 9 1902 Essex Leyton VIEW
BAKER, Alfred Walter Son M 5 1906 Essex Leyton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9628 Reference:
RG14PN9628 RG78PN512 RD188 SD8 ED23 SN47

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
South Leyton Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Cann Hall

Image says two children born during marriage

Start with search trees

Look on freebmd for marriages for the children......then for children of the marriages

Hi i am trying to find any family that was connected to frederick john baker born 1873 shoreditch and his second wife mary elizabeth meggs born 1880 leyton.

They had 2 children ellen caroline baker born1902 but not sure if this was a step daughter by one of the parents as frederick first wife died in 1904 and they only had a son and the second child was alfred walter born 1906 leyton

I do know frederick john baker was a fishmonger and in the 1911 census he classed his self as a costermonger and was living at 63 lancaster road leytonstone

If anybody can help i would be grateful

Sue