General Chat

Hi Mike Thanks for the info it could well be that Hannah had died at the time of 1891 census as my Great Aunt Emma told me that she had to look after her father and the rest of the family. One of the reasons that she never got married! The reason for clarity for Sarah Ann is that I thought that she was a Mrs Moore, however Jestrrwolf via the Leicestershire board sent me some info recently of a Sarah Ann Timson who married a John Stephen MARCH around 1885 with children Emma, Alfred and Elma. Thus my confussion - which one is my relation? Regards Ken Hastings, Hunua, NZ.

Greeting’s Again Ken. . . . . Think it was Charles. . . . . Just checked out both Marriage cert No.'s on 1837 site. . . they are the same 7a 441. Sept Qrt 1882. Also. . . 1891. Census for the City of Leicester Index only…. Film No. 2542. Folder 5. Charles Moore. Head. Age 25. Emma Moore Sister. Age 21. Sarah Moore Wife. Age 25. Elizabeth Moore. Dau Age 5. Arthur Moore. Son. Age 2. William Moore. Son. Age 1. 1891. Census for the County of Leicestershire Index only. Film No. 2495. Folder 92. ( Humberstone. ) John Timson. Head. Age 47. Alfred. Son. Age 24.( he’s gone up by 2 years) Arthur. Son. Age 17. Emma. Dau. Age 20. Walter. Son. Age 15. Sorry no sign of Hanna checked deaths with the disks I have no luck And She has not reverted back to Yates So not too sure what has happened to her. . .sorry. MIKE.

Hi Jan Could you please help me solve the problem of who my great aunt Sarah Ann Timson married? She was born in Leicester in 1866, her parents were John Timson and Hannah Yates. I have two main suspects firstly Charles Moore in 1882 September Quarter vol 7a page 441 or John March in 1885/6. She was living at home at time of 1881 census working as a Hosiery mender at 49 Flint Street. Her brothers Alfred(my grandfather), Arthur, and Walter her sister Emma. They could have been witnesses? Thank you Regards Ken Hastings

Hi all I'm going to Leicester Wednesday or Thursday - anyone else want anything looking up?

Sue I've got your email will do my best. Yes the records office is super. Everywhere I've been the people have been really nice! And resources!! The FHS have some data for South Shields which is my family - not bad, eh?

Jan, I have sent you an email, there is supposed to be a very good record office in Wigston also...... Sue

Now don't anyone get mardy with me just cos I wasn't born here! Married into Leicestershire born and bred - now living in Donington-le-Heath near Coalville. Discovered the Leics and Rutland FHS library last week - am planning to go next week. Anyone need anything looking up? Jan

Greeting's Ken......... I spoke to a " Locial native of Blaby" today and he said the Road signs for Willoughby where changed in 1970-71. So I was a bit out in the first guess ....sorry. MIKE.

Mike, thanks ever so much for all the trouble you've gone to......... it is really appreciated !! thanks again Jane

Greeting's Ken. . . . Good question there re name change ... not sure but guess it was resent.... I did ask the Lady yesterday and all she said was that on her birth cert it was Waterless and I put her in her mid 50's ......I've just had a quick look round on the net Looks like the change was some time between 1992 -2002 but will check it out and get back to you Yes the " Green Wellie Brigade " are taking over in both villages if you type into goggle the name of the villages they both have their own sites. . . . MIKE.

Hi Mike When did they give Willoughby a change of name was always known as Waterless when I was living in Countesthorpe in 40/50's. Has it been taken over by the upwardly mobile? Ken Hastings Hunua nz

Hi Mike, Photo's have been printed that you sent me, and information has gone down, thanks a million for all your time that you have given us today you are a gem... Regards Sue.............

Eh Up me Ducks Can I add my name to this list pease....born and bred in Leicester....but now Downunder,,, Mike...you are a wonder,,,,I am sure these other ladies must be thrilled with your help... I thank you too for all the help that you have given me.. Kate

SUE...... 1st. lot of pic's hot off the presses and on it's way to you Can you let me know when you are ready for the next lot plz. MIKE.

Jane.. . . . . Found these on the 1891 Cenus Returns......... Thornton’s and Simms within a 10 Mile radius of Willoughby Waterley’s for the 1891 Census Returns.. . . LUTTERWORTH. 2490/24. ARTHUR SIMMS. HEAD 27yrs. ELIZABETH. WIFE 27yrs. CHARLES. SON 1yrs. 2490/34. TOBIAS SIMMS. HEAD 60yrs. MARY. WIFE 60yrs. SOUTH KILWORTH. 2489/157. WALTER SIMMS. NEPHEW 2yrs. LAWRENCE. NEPHEW 3yrs. CATTHORPE. 2489/68. WILLIAM THOMAS SIMMS HEAD 58yrs. MARY ANN WIFE. 34. JOHN THOMAS. SON 15yrs. MARY JANE. DAU. 8yrs. SAM. SON. 7yrs. FRED. SON. 6yrs. ELISE. DAU. 3yrs. 2489/66. ELIZABETH SIMMS. SERVANT. 12yrs. WILLOUGHBY WATERLEY’S. ( WILLOUGHBY WATERLESS) 2490/137. BISHOP THORNTON. HEAD. 52yrs. WILLIAM THORNTON. HEAD 47yrs. SALOME. HEAD. 47yrs. ELIZABETH. WIFE. 49yrs. ELIZA. WIFE. 51yrs. CATHERINE. DAU. 16yrs. ( not sure who goes with who) COUNTESTHORPE. 2497/20. THOMAS THORNTON. HEAD. 55yrs. LUCY. WIFE. 55yrs THOMAS JAMES LODGER 51yrs. SAMUEL. SON. 22yrs. JAMES. HEAD. 31yrs. THERESA. WIFE. 31yrs. THOMAS. NEPHEW. 20yrs. JOSEPH. SON. 18yrs. SARAH. DAU. 17yrs. EMMA. DAU. 5yrs. JOHN. SON. 3yrs. ( think I’ve got them in the right order ) 2497/23. THOMAS THORNTON. HEAD. 45yrs. MARY JANE. WIFE. 44yrs. MARGARET MAY. DAU. 23yrs. ELIZABETH ANNE. DAU. 19yrs. WILLIAM THOMAS. SON. 11yrs. ARTHUR. SON. 8yrs. MILDRED ANNIE. DAU. 2yrs. 2497/34. WILLIAM J. THORNTON. HEAD. 27yrs. ELIZABETH. WIFE. 27yrs. FREDERIC T. SON. 5yrs. GLADYS. DAU. 10Mths. 2497/24. THOMAS SIMMS. HEAD. 36yrs. SHELINA. WIFE. 35yrs. EDITH ANNE. DAU. 7yrs. MARY ELIZABETH. DAU. 5yrs. ELIZA. DAU. 2yrs. 2499/122. KEZIAH THORNTON. OFFICER. 50yrs. Have FUN......lol :) MIKE.

To Mike, You are very helpful, thanks again for your effort...... Regards Sue..............just going to check in box!!

Mike, cheers me dears, you are 1 big angel !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I owe you 1 Jane

Sue & Jane....... " Scott of the Antarctic Here". . . . Because it was a sunny day today. I decided to go today..... Not so good results this time....No Gravestones :( But all was not lost spoke to a Lady who was walking her dog and told her what I was doing.... She no more ran home and came back with a list of all burials within the graveyard and cemetery..... So pens out .......... Jane....Thorntons ( No Simms). . . . TORNTON ELIZA 05.MAY 1828. 11Mths. TORNTON SARAH 21.APR 1832. 62.yrs TORNTON CATHERINE WILSON 26.JUNE 1844. 27.yrs TORNTON TITUS 31.AUG 1844. 27.yrs TORNTON JOHN HENRY 09.NOV 1847. 9days. TORNTON HARRIET 27.OCT 1850. 43yrs. TORNTON EDWARD 31.JUL 1854. 58yrs. TORNTON SARAH 14.JAN 1866. 65yrs. TORNTON THOMAS 17.SEPT 1871. 61yrs. TORNTON WILLIAM 04.JAN 1874 71yrs TORNTON BISHOP 23.MAY 1914 74yrs. TORNTON ELIZABETH 04.FEB 1915. 85yrs. TORNTON WILLIAM 23.FEB 1918. 76.yrs. Sue. . . . Page...( No Ringrose's ) PAGE WILLIAM 22.APR 1827 32yrs. PAGE ELIZABETH 02.JAN 1828. 2yrs. PAGE REBECC 31.MAR 1833. 17yrs. PAGE JOHN HACKETT 17.MAR 1840. 18yrs. PAGE ELIZA 31.MAY 1840. 2yrs. PAGE ELIZABETH 06.MAY 1849. 54yrs. PAGE ANN 16.AUG 1855. 30yrs. PAGE REBECCA ?? ?? 1861 15yrs Died in Leicester west... W MITCHELL. PAGE EPHRAIM 02.DEC 1865. PAGE DEBORAH 11.OCT 1880 9 Weeks. PAGE WILLIAM 10.NOV 1880. 63yrs. PAGE ADA 18.JUN 1884. Infant. PAGE ALICE 27.JUL 1960. 65yrs. PAGE WILLIAM 19.NOV 1969 84yrs. Sue..... I did go back to Countesthorpe and took some pic's of "The Bakery Main Str."....also took pic's of St Mary's Church Willoughby Waterleys. I need to download these, so keep your mail box empty ...lol :) That marraige came from a disk I have called ... " The Leicestershire Project " from my FHS. OH by the way Ladies..Willoughby Waterley's was known as "Willoughby Waterless "in the early years so watch out when searching ...... MIKE.

Born and bred in Leicestershire - escaped for a while, but now back - in Houghton on the Hill!!

Thankyou very much Mike have jotted them down. Regards Sue.............