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what's your views on asylum seekers that enter the country.should they work like the british public and put money back into the country?should they pay taxes and national insurance.that way they acn put back into society?

I think that this is a never ending question that could be pondered all day long! I have thought about it for every point of view and I still dont know where my opinion stands! I am in the very first stages of trying to move to Oz and believe me it is so hard. Our points were, no where near the entry level and by the time we finish studying we lose points on our ages! I think that the gov needs to get this sorted soon and be collective about it rules so that what ever they do decide, then everybody will know what is expected. I am not into politics but I do feel that there needs to be a defined plan. Hope I got this across right, sometimes I doesnt sound how I would speak when I type. x

I think we should stop lumping all asylum seekers together. We've all seen the pickpockets and other law breakers on T. V. who call themselves asylum seekers, but what about the senior consultant radiologist at my local hospital who was also an asylum seeker. Also the young man in the newspapers yesterday who has won a scholarship to a public school and is a world class cricketer. I just think that we're all brothers and sisters,good or bad and we should concentrate more on the good. (I think that sounded like a sermon!) hope I have'nt upset anyone.

Yes ,they should work for a living .this thread has only told half the story. I am on the sick ,long term ,and have worked all my life,,i,m now 60. I still get around a bit and it,s been a bit of an eye opener, seeing what some of these immigrants get up to .Like working 14 hours a day in pizza shops ,car washes in textiles and the like ,so they arn,nt all spongers. I know brits who have never worked in their lives ,and don,t intend doing so ,and if you are honest ,you have to admit to the same.So lets be fair about this and give them a chance yeh?Denis.

Don't want to be controversial, but just to give my opinion from what I see. I am well aware that just a few bad 'uns sometimes spoil it for the rest, but here goes. I work in a very busy inner city GP Practice. We have a large number of asylum seekers on our list. Almost without fail, they are very demanding and aggressive to the reception staff. They turn up without appointments, demanding to see the GP "NOW", and when we try and explain that it doesn't work like this, they suddenly don't speak ANY English at all!! Even when we have organised a translator, they still refuse to be put off. Obviously, trying to explain the system to them and organising help all takes time and puts pressure on an already fit to bust organisation. Nine times out of ten, when they are first allocated to us, they demand to be seen IMMEDIATELY, whilst trying to clarify the urgency it often comes out that they want forms filling in from the GP - this is their emergency!! A few weeks ago an asylum seeker couple who had just had a baby in this country, came to Reception asking how they go about having their childs ears pierced on the NHS!! I have held my job at the Surgery for 18 years, and it says something that the only time I have been physically threatened is recently, by an asylum seeker, who I had to politely ask to come back to Reception from the GPs room, where he had taken himself down without an appointment or any contact with Reception. He took great exception to this, and tried to hit me!! I know that there are genuine asylum seekers, but it is just so frustrating for our staff, who are all trying to work for a living, to see these people come into the Country, being given the best of Council houses, in some cases being given free bus passes as well, while family of the staff have been on housing waiting lists forever without being offered accommodation. These same people, whilst demanding an immediate appointment, are asking where the nearest NHS dentist is, and where the Opticians are. Both I and my husband work, and we cannot afford to go to the Dentist!! I don't know how the government works this, but the only family that I was absolutely sure were genuine, with genuine problems, were deported. I dread to think what has become of them. So maybe ALL the asylum seekers are genuine, but it would not hurt them to have a bit of respect and manners toward us, who at the end of the day are trying to help them. I am not one bit racist (race doesn't come into it) and as we all know from genealogy, probably none of us are truly British through and through!!, and it is more an attitude thing than anything else. Sorry if I have offended anyone, but this is just my opinion (and what a long one it was!!!) Carol.

My daughter works at the local job centre and she says that most of the asylum seekers she sees do want to work . A few weeks ago my son advertised his wifes runabout for sale and a couple came to view it and decided to buy it He was an Isreali Christian and she was Chezch they both had jobs and were living in a council flat .They tried to get my son to reduce the price of the car which he refused, two hours later they rang up and said they now had the asking price so could they please have the car and could he deliver it. He and his family went to the flat sold their car to them, and they asked my daughter in law would she ring to arrange insurance for them, as when they use the telephone they don't always understand what they are being told. The young lady gave them coffee and brought out her photograph album to show them her family Both of them said they were so delighted that they had visitors and also that the didn't intend to stay in the flat long as they want to work hard and save for a nice house When they got outside my son said to his wife, over 50 years ago that could have been your grandparents they are Ukranian as is her father and his brother and sister Bren

Cazzie, Sounds just like a Saturday night when I worked in Casualty and that was before the recent bouts of assylum seekers. Most were local people, born and bred in the uk. Jacky:-)

You are not the only ones with asylum seekers. Here in the Netherlands we have also too many. Our National Insurance has risen so much in price over the last years. A lot of stealing going on, but no proof of who's done it. They open shops here with no bother. I don't know exactly how it is now, but at one time the Dutch had to pass an examination before they were allowed to open a shop. We have the asparagus time at the moment and the farmers need help to cut the asparagus, but not allowed to employ asylum seekers. The out of work Dutch don't want to do it either, too much like hard work! The problem is that it causes hard feelings among everybody.