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Remember, remember the fifth of November

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syljo

syljo Report 4 Nov 2004 15:29

Yes, Philip, history is so fascinating. I wish I had found it so fascinating when I was at school. All down to the teacher in charge I think. Anyway, lovely to hear your remarks. Sylvia xxx

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Finland

Philip

Philip Report 4 Nov 2004 13:40

Hello Sylvia, The official version is that a group of disaffected Catholics, mainly from the north of England, who suspected James I of Puritan sympathies because of his Presbyterian upbringing in Scotland by John Knox and others (although his mother, Mary Queen of Scots, was Catholic), decided to stage a coup by blowing up both him and Parliament. Guy Fawkes was the fall guy chosen to actually set off the gunpowder in barrels under Parliament (no, he wasn't a Moslem fundamentalist suicide martyr working for Bib Laden, lol!) Actually, James was glad to have made his escape from Scottish Prebyterianism when he succeeded Elizabeth I as King of England in 1603, and found the Anglican experience much more fun, so their fears were unfounded in the first place! The alternative version, as recorded in Sellers & Yeatman's "1066 and All That", enjoyed by every schoolboy over the age of 200(!), is that the Catholic group overheard James going round muttering, "No bishop, no king", and decided to help him out as friends by taking him at his word, and knocking him and the bishops off together. The reality is that James did in fact say these words, but in a different context. He was reacting to some of the pressures from English Puritans to get rid of bishops from the Anglican Church and introduce a Presbyterian form of government for the church. (Which, as I have already mentioned, he had been delighted to leave behind him in Scotland!) I'll leave it to you which version you prefer! Ho hum, the mysteries of history.... lol! Philip

Mags

Mags Report 3 Nov 2004 19:50

Guy Guy Guy! Poke him in the eye! Hang him on the gate post and there let him die! I can still hear my gran saying that as she poked the bonfire! lol Magsx

ChrisofWessex

ChrisofWessex Report 3 Nov 2004 19:48

And the school that Guy Fawkes went to in York never celebrate Guy Fawkes night! Just a piece of trivia!

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 3 Nov 2004 18:33

Cant forget it <loud fireworks going off for the last few days...> E x

syljo

syljo Report 3 Nov 2004 18:16

Thanks Maz for finishing my rhyme, I had forgotten its end! Sylvia xxx

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Finland

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256

Maz (the Royal One) in the East End 9256 Report 3 Nov 2004 18:12

Remember remember the 5th of November Gunpowder, treason and plot I see no reason Why gunpowder, treason Should ever be forgot Maz. XX

syljo

syljo Report 3 Nov 2004 18:08

Do you all still remember exactly why the fifth of November is celebrated with fireworks and burning an effigy of Guy Fawkes? I am sure there are some who just let off fireworks because others do. There are so many in Britain who weren't born there, and one cannot blame them for not knowing the history. Sylvia xxx

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Finland