General Chat

I realise it's very late, and I've just finished work, very tired, but I must be missing something here. How does being told you can't do something, and making it a forceable law "maximise your choices"?????? A tired and confused Debbie

sex? who is talking about sex,(sigh) almost forgetting what sex is! lol xx

It's the sex that does that to your memory, not the beer - aint that true girls???? - lol Jacqui

Blokes. Sex. Sex. Beer. More sex. More beer. Don't remember.

No No Andy - chocolate before fags and sex - in that order!! lol Jacqui

Huh? Linda? Fags before Sex? Typical woman!

This is true Linda - but I can usual manage a Flake as well!! lol Jacqui

I believe there is a White Paper coming out tomorrow about S.E.X. and where and when it can happen, and whether it can or cannot include chocolate!!! If it takes as long to pass the Bill as the fox-hunting bill, then bonking can continue for many years, anyplace, anywhere, anyhow with or without the Flake Bar! - lol Jacqui ps wonder when the Bill is coming out about unruly kids in restaurants throwing their food about? I know, Elaine, I've mentioned it before!! lol Jacqui

NO! NO! Listen! Talk about the thin end of the wedge! Talk about the thin end of anything! They are going to restrict nookie next! No horizontal wrestling onless you can prove you are married, using contraception and have life insurance in case it's too much for the old ticker!

Dont you dare (I repeat DARE) talk about ban and chocolate in the same sentence - people have been hung for less - lol Jacqui

I second that Maggie, way to go!!! - Jacqui only slightly overweight, smoker (only 5 a day!), nearly t-total (1 bottle a night!) MacDonald's loving french fries gourmet, insitutionalised pleb!

YES! Let's let the Government turn us in to a homogenised society. In this perfect society we will all be living in our boxes made of ticky tacky, driving our cars recklessly because we're okay - they've got impact protection for the next pedestrian we hit (how dare they walk in a non-pedestrianised area!), and nice air filters so we don't breathe in the fumes! We'll all eat the same food - approved by the Government (don't forget no one stopped McDonalds - ony when a health lobby pointed out how malnourished children who ate there a lot were) chocolate will be banned next. We'll all have psychologists because we can't talk face to face to anyone anymore - when we get out of our cars, our ears are clamped to the mobile. None of us smoke - we're so healthy - shame about the cancers and infertility caused by the mobile. Oh well, can't blame the government for hiding the perils - most of them had shares in the companies. Drink will be banned - well a few went over the top, likewise all children will be tracked - just in case one of them becomes a hooligan. Everyone will be taught to bring their children up the same way (this, like education will be subject to change at the whim of a politician). Of course, teachers will continue to teach what the government decrees - and all in exactly the same way - there is to be no individuality allowed! Anyone who steps out of line and is 4 lbs overweight will be sent to the local 'health Tsar' - weight will be monitored centrally through CCTV. I could go on, but it's scary. Basically we will be monitored int zombies! I remember another politician who tried to control people's lives. One small step.......... maggie

Dear Lapland Lovely (and I'm sure you are, but would much rather know your christian/first name, as I feel I would be talking to a person rather than a noun) Non-smokers do indeed have as many rights as smokers - I was merely pointing out to Margaret who mentioned her profession that at moments of stress a ciggie can be a life-line, and in our profession a little compassion goes a long way - and you agreed. But, had you read my earlier response you would see that the white paper is merely an area for debate in the Commons, as is (still) fox-hunting, soon to be door-step selling, wind-power, etc etc. In my opinion there will not be an overnight ban on smoking in public places etc. so it is no good getting worked up about it - it is merely an area for debate and much as the non-smokers amongst us would like it to be an overnight ban, there are those of us (and I am amongst them) who would object to such a ban, and I and my fellow-smokers have as many rights as those who do not smoke. Jacqui

in that sense i feel they can have a cigerette but the issue is a non smoking atmosphere which people have a right to have.a smoker has a choice to stop a non smoker hasn't when it comes to going out and socialisingxxxxx(:

Margaret - I cannot see what your occupation has to do with whether you go to a pub and come out smelling of fag smoke? Do you arrange many funerals in the pub? I dont, and I'm a funeral director too. We as a firm have smoking and non-smoking arranging rooms - guess which one is used the most? at moments of stress the public will reach for whatever is needed to aid them (a cup of tea, a fag whatever) - who are we as a caring profession to tell them they cannot have a ciggie if they need one when they are often making gut-wrenching decisions about their nearest and dearest? Tell them to go outside and have a fag? Where's the compassion in that? Jacqui

I can go a pub and not come out smelling of other peoples cigarette smoke, on the other hand I am a funeral arranger!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't we been down this avenue before??? Just as an aside - this "long awaited White Paper" is to be debated after the "long awaited White Paper" on door-step selling and cold-calling - you know, those double glazing salesmen (and women) that plague the life out of you on the phone just whilst you are trying to eat your tea!!! Now, how long has it been since we started moaning about cold-calling and door-step selling? 10, 15, 20 years? and there is still NO LAW to prevent door-step selling and cold-calling! A White Paper is just that - an item for debate by the "powers that be". I do think that the tobacco industry in this country have a tremendous amount of "pull" (as do the petrol companies) and there will be government financial implications that will be decided before anything becomes law, but I bet you a packet of 20 to a tin of mint-balls, the cold-calling white paper will be decided first, rather than the "ban smoking in public places" Jacqui (off to have a quick one before dinner! - fag that is)

I'm giving it up. I'll be richer and hopefully healthier. Just had a thought though, what are all those millions of "whacky backy" smokers going to do?

i don't drink hardly at all....gave up smoking cos i can't offord it.......but wait a minuite they will be on my back soon...cause i'm too fat....and its not because i overeat on junk food either put 2 stone on after giving up the fags .....

Hi Bryan, paul didnt mean any harm in it, he is always mucking around xxx