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My thoughts on castigation

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nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2021 16:15

With the infection numbers creeping up again what will be the reaction if the country doesn’t open up in June.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2021 16:49

Hancock’s half hour is going to interesting this evening.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 May 2021 16:58

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 27 May 2021 17:44

He was Maggie, but I think it was to placate the instigator, the boss, who still had in mind the economy.

Many months ago, when Trump was still in, I wrote on here that per capita, our numbers were worse than the USAs and I don't think a lot of people believed it, so the comparison with India is no surprise to me, Maggie.



Maddie

Maddie Report 27 May 2021 18:01

we are good at recording info thats why we look bad, they can only estimate the numbers in india brazil etc no one mentions africa
and where do they get the world figure an estimate again ??

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 May 2021 18:28

Our figures are also an estimate, Maddie.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2021 18:42

There is a very interesting table on the bbc website news page - sorry I’m on my IPad so can’t post the link.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 May 2021 19:23

It appears that, up to 75% of new UK cases could be the Indian variant.

"On Thursday, a further 3,542 coronavirus cases and 10 deaths within 28 days of a positive test were reported in the UK.
It is the second day in a row the number of new Covid cases has topped 3,000 - the first time infections have reached this level since mid-April.
Over the last seven days, cases are up 20.5% compared with the week before."

Is this the table?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57268471


Von

Von Report 27 May 2021 20:22

And Professor Jenny Harries was still saying that we don’t know if it’s the variant that

is causing the increase or the easing of restrictions :-| :-| :-|

As I see it does it matter you act according to the situation that is front of you not wait until you’ve reached the next crisis :-(

Boris is still saying he doesn’t think there is any reason why we shouldn’t open up on June 21st.
I despair :-(

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2021 21:07

Hi. Maggie

Yes that’s the one.

Names

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 May 2021 21:07

Hi. Maggie

Yes that’s the one.

Names

Allan

Allan Report 27 May 2021 22:28

Hindsight is a marvellous thing; it allows all the armchair experts to point out where things have gone wrong and where they would have made different decisions.

I'm just as guilty, but what we tend to forget is that in all our 'advice' and 'we would have done this way or that way' there is a massive omission we do not have to take any responsibility for any consequences which may arise from such advice.

I can't speak about the situation in the UK, but nearly everything that has been posted on this Thread could apply to Australia.

Yes, Australia closed its borders very early on, no travel in or out, unless, of course, you are an ex-Minister who happens to be jetting around the world to pit in a bid for the top job in the IMF.

Yet figures recently released show that since the lockdown 140,000 people were given an exemption on 'compassionate' grounds to travel abroad.

Victoria is about to enter its third major lockdown due to failures in the hotel quarantine scheme, and so things continue.

I would hate to be in any Government, unless it was an absolute dictatorship, and try to juggle all the decisions regarding health, the economy. compassionate considerations and all the rest of the paraphernalia that goes with it and then at the end of the day being Responsible for those decisions and their consequences.

Kense

Kense Report 27 May 2021 22:55

Australia's death rate 3.7 , UK's 190,2 from the table mentioned above. So I think we in the UK have got something to complain about. As I mentioned above, Cygnus should have prepared the government to deal with a pandemic, but it was ignored.




JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 28 May 2021 08:59

Von, I am in agreement with you - I, too, despair!

I am surprised that Harries seems to be toeing the government line so I wonder what she's after, I ask myself?

The Indian variant is rampant in an area not too far from where I am and the ADVICE is that only essential travel into and out of the area is preferable!

It will spread as many people from there will travel to the city for work in shops etc. If the man in the street can see that ..... ?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 28 May 2021 09:25

I agree with Sharron and Allan.

Dealing with the unknown, which is what Covid is, means you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. The number of times I've heard the Scientists, when asked a question, say "we simply don't know"!

We in the UK have a large populace in a relatively small area and to contain transmission is neigh impossible unless policing of rules is similar to those in a police state.

Then there is the question of how lockdown affects business and therefore people's livelihood.

Any decision made has a knock on effect and implications which need to be addressed before they can be implemented.

Yes, with hindsight some decisions perhaps could have been made differently but hindsight is easy, foresight is difficult.

As for Cummings, well surely he has now made himself unemployable. It's easy for someone who doesn't actually make decisions and doesn't have to bare the consequences to be critical or was it just revenge? He now says his Durham trip was for security reasons, I'm sure if that were true that would have been mentioned at the outset. Also, it was amazing that he couldn't recall certain things when asked questions about those that he favoured!

I too would hate to have to make some of the decisions that have had to be made:-(

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 May 2021 10:23

A few years ago there was a Belgian tv thriller where they blocked all the streets with shipping containers and let the people inside die from whatever contagion they had.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 May 2021 14:17

When I am feeling down and in need of a good laugh I love to read the online version of the Daily Express. It always cheers me up!

When I want to know what is actually going on I read something else, but it doesn’t have me giggling :-D

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 May 2021 14:26

I'd totally forgotten about the 'Express' Names!
Their weather forecasts are hilarious.
Must go ahd have a peek now. :-D :-D

After that, I'll attempt to work out my own opinion!!!!!!!!!

Oh yes, and I really MUST have a look at pictures of CROWS . :-D :-D

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 May 2021 14:39

Very brave of you to mention crows. I got reported for trying to humerously point out a typo.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 May 2021 14:42

I just happen to like crows. ;-)

It's very similar to apparently, being unable to read the 'correct' newspaper,
whatever that is :-D