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This is shocking! Just part of a report in the DM.

Official figures also show that more than 10,000 people acquired Covid-19 when they were being treated in hospital for other illnesses, with one NHS Trust recording that nearly 40 per cent of Covid-19 cases they were treating had been contracted in its wards.

Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust said that 139 of its 357 Covid-19 patients (nearly 40 per cent) they had treated had caught coronavirus there, while board papers showed that five patients had died.

Data submitted to NHS England by trusts with A&E departments that have treated over 100 coronavirus patients since August show that more than 16 per cent of people treated for the virus in hospital had caught it there.

Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals NHS Trust had the second highest proportion of cases, after Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, at 37 per cent (or 146 cases). Kingston Hospital NHS Foundation Trust recorded 34 per cent (or 91 cases).

Tameside and Glossop Integrated Care NHS Foundation Trust recorded that nearly almost 22 per cent of Covid-19 patients they had treated were hospital acquired infections.

The shock Telegraph finding is likely to raise fears about control of the disease and whether the NHS has sufficient measures in place to protect patients – let alone whether the health service can ever truly protect patients from the spread of Covid-19.

Former health secretary Jeremy Hunt, chairman of the Commons Health and Social Care Select Committee, last night said that 'there is absolutely no justification for this level of hospital infections'.

Jonathan Ashworth, Labour's shadow health minister, told the newspaper: 'These are alarming findings that will cause understandable concern for patients and their loved ones. It's vital robust infection control is in place across hospital trusts and that all frontline staff access ongoing regular routine testing.

Strangely, the Government, who had been cutting both hospital beds and NHS staff for 10 years, didn't take into account the fact that there weren't enough staff to man the hospitals, let alone the Nightingale Hospitals.
They could have asked management - but they didn't.

"The totally inevitable can hardly be described as shocking"

Was that snipe really necessary?

He can’t help himself Island.

The shock is mine Rollo, as it might be yours if your wife had gone in to hospital with a bad back headaches and a uti and three weeks later in hospital, not mobile, no contact with other patients tested positive with Covid 19

Twice my husband has been taken into hospital by ambulance, both times for over a week, had numerous tests and a blood transfusion and nearly died, it would be an understatement for me to say I was worried and scared, then seeing people walking round without masks was just the last straw and I was very vocal to them, I couldn’t visit him nor speak to his medical team
He also had outpatient treatment but still no cause found.

Those who have never experienced certain events can always pontificate

I am not a regular hospital visitor or attendee, thank goodness, but for much of this year I have pondered about hospitals' air conditioning systems.

If installed, I wonder whether all have been turned off? Perhaps some of you know the answer?

I hope that hospitals built with air conditioning, since the inception of partnerships, have provided for individual ward/area air conditioning systems. I also hope that windows have not been installed as sealed units so have been designed to open. It goes without saying that theatre areas ought to be completely self-contained units.

Heating via radiators poses no problems so I hope that architects and designers have not gone the way of air-blown heating (which also poses a dust problem).

In my opinion, our local, relatively newly-built partnership hospital is not a patch on the old one where one of my children was born. Fewer beds, higher-rise, built on a smaller site using only part of the land that the old hospital used - to the dismay of many, the rest being sold for housing, instead of being used for recuperation which means that patients are transferred to another site a few miles away rather than being wheeled along to a recuperation/half-way 'house' on the same site.

The wards of the old hospital each opened to the outside where patients could sit outside and beds and wheelchairs could be wheeled outside when the weather was decent. (I have a lovely photo of one of my children in bed outside.)

It seems to me that hospital designers/architects sometimes throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to the new!

Rant over - but I have to say, things such as this get my goat up!

My comment was not a barbed one Rollo, it was more that you appeared to be uncaring about me being shocked when I still have no knowledge of how my husband is and whether he is going to survive. Last info was that he is very confused and having fluids intravenously because of refusing to eat and/or drink. He is unable to walk and has now developed a cough (I assume from the covid). At 82 it is scary that after 60 years of marriage I may not see him again and he is too confused now to speak on the phone (he has been in hospital four weeks).

That was truly shocking about your daughter and I am sorry to hear it.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can definitely hurt me!

Rollo, what a shock! So sad. I hope you get a satisfactory explanation soon. <3

That was truly sad for you Rollo, I'm sorry to hear it.

My comment was referring to covid infections and hospitals only however.