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12 Oct 2018 23:55 |
Hi It's been a while, but with the 100th anniversary of the WW1 armistice rapidly approaching I hope that I can get in touch with any descendants of the Cooper family of Braintree, who lost four young men between 1916 and 1917. Locally they are quite well known, but my wife, who moved away from the area in 1967, is the grand-daughter of Ernest Cooper, a career soldier and older brother who survived the war. I have contacted the British Legion and remembered the lads on their 'Everyoneremembered' site. What I was hoping for was some more background on the young men themselves. Hopefully somebody can help, and of course photographs would be amazing. Cheers
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13 Oct 2018 00:19 |
According to the Every One Remembered site, there are 2330 listings for Cooper.
If you'd like help trying to trace their descendants, then please give the information to identify them.
To start with, apart from Ernest, do you know if any of them married? Did they have any female siblings who may have married?
Search All Member trees - top right under Search - for the names. Send a message to any tree owner who lists them. If the young men had married, they be a direct descendent.
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13 Oct 2018 00:24 |
From a newspaper article
Harry, Arthur, Bertie and George Cooper lived with their family in Gooseberry Hall in South Street, Braintree, when war broke out in 1914.
Rifleman Harry, 26, of the 1st Battalion Queen Victoria’s Rifles, was the first to die at the Somme on October 2, 1916. (body never found - name listed on Thiepval Memorial)
Next was Arthur, 29, a Private in the Essex Regiment, who died of wounds on March 25, 1917.
Their 21-year-old brother Bertie followed on April 9, 1917 - he was killed in action while serving as a Private in the 9th Battalion Essex Regiment.
Bertie’s name remains on the Arras Memorial in France.
The final blow to their widower father, Joseph, and his remaining two sons and three daughters, was 24-year-old George’s death on August 5, 1917.
George, a rifleman in the 10th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles, was killed in action and, like Harry, his body was never found.
His name appears on the Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing at Ypres in Flanders.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cddlg9 Braintree & Witham Times 12 May 2015
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13 Oct 2018 00:41 |
Rifleman COOPER, HARRY Service Number 6707 Died 02/10/1916 1st/9th Bn. London Regiment (Queen Victoria's Rifles)
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Name: Harry Cooper Gender: Male Death Date: 2 Oct 1916 Rank: Private Regiment: London Regiment Regimental Number: 6707/392777
Outstanding pay & gratuity to father Joseph, so not married.
Awarded the Victory & British medal.
Unfortunately about 70% of WW1 records were destroyed during WW2 bombing. From the medals issued, we can estimate that he didn't serve overseas before 31 Dec 1915
FMP's transcription gives his place of enlistment
First name(s) Harry Last name Cooper Service number 6707 Rank Rifleman Regiment London Regiment Battalion 9th (County of London) Battalion (Queen Victoria's Residence Braintree Birth place - Enlistment place Chelmsford Death year 1916 Death day 2 Death month 10 Cause of death Killed in action Death place France & Flanders Theatre of war Western European Theatre
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13 Oct 2018 01:00 |
Private COOPER, A Service Number 3/2777 Died 25/03/1917 11th Bn. Essex Regiment
Name: Arthur Cooper Birth Place: Bocking, Essex Residence: Braintree Death Date: 25 Mar 1917 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Chelmsford Rank: Private Regiment: Essex Regiment Battalion: 11th Battalion Regimental Number: 3/2777 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Name: Arthur Cooper Gender: Male Death Date: 25 Mar 1917 Death Place: France Rank: Private Regiment: Essex Regiment Regimental Number: 3/2777
Effects to sole legatee, father Joseph.
Buried BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY VI. C. 33.
You can see a photo of his headstone here - https://www.twgpp.org/photograph/view/3066991
He should have been awarded the British & Victory medals. However, Ancestry is 'down'.
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13 Oct 2018 01:09 |
1891 Census? giving a number of family names
Name: Joseph Cooper Gender: Male Age: 36 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1855 Spouse: Emma Cooper Birth Place: Black Notley, Essex, England Civil Parish: Braintree Residence Place: Braintree, Essex, England Sub registration district: Braintree ED, Institution or Vessel: 8
Piece: 1426 Folio: 111 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Cooper 36 Emma Cooper 35 Joseph W Cooper 18 Minnie Cooper 13 Ellen Cooper 9 Ernest J Cooper 7 Alice Cooper 5 Arthur Cooper 3 Harry Cooper 7/12 ..................... 1901 including Bertie
Name: Joseph Cooper Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Black Notley, Essex, England Civil Parish: Braintree Ecclesiastical parish: Braintree St Michael the Archangel Town: Braintree County/Island: Essex Country: England
Name Age Joseph Cooper 46 William Cooper 25 Minnie Cooper 22 Ellen Cooper 19 Ernest Cooper 17 - direct ancestor (you probably know of other relatives) Alise Cooper 15 Arthur Cooper 13 - killed Harry Cooper 10 - killed George Cooper 8 - killed Bertie Cooper 5 - killed ..........
1911 Joseph Cooper Age in 1911: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Black Notley, Essex Civil Parish: Braintree Search Photos: Search for 'Braintree' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: South Street, Braintree, Essex Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Jobbing Gardener Registration district: Braintree Registration District Number: 201 Sub-registration district: Braintree ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 195
Name Age Joseph Cooper 56 Arthur Cooper 23 Harry Cooper 21 George Cooper 18 Bertie Cooper 16
The image says 10 children born, 9 living. As a total of 9 appear on census, presumably the 10th was born & died between census?
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13 Oct 2018 01:26 |
That name count can't be right. Joseph 1876 appears to be known as William
COOPER, JOSEPH WILLIAM mmn HURRELL GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 419
COOPER, MINNIE mmn HURRELL GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 417
COOPER, ALICE EMMA mmn HURRELL GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 459 Her death COOPER, ALICE EMMA 3 GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 291
COOPER, ELLEN mmn HURRELL GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 508
COOPER, ERNEST JOHN mmn HURRELL (ancestor) GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 546
COOPER, ALICE mmn HURRELL GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 569
COOPER, ARTHUR mmn HURRELL (Killed) GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 611
COOPER, HARRY mmn HURRELL (Killed) GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 563
COOPER, GEORGE mmn HURRELL (KIlled) GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 677
COOPER, BERTIE mmn HURRELL (Killed) GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 668
10 births
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13 Oct 2018 11:32 |
Name: Bertie Cooper Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1895 Death Date: 9 Apr 1917 Cemetery: The Arras Memorial at Faubourg-D´Amiens Cemetery, Arras Burial Country: France Regiment: Essex Regiment Regimental Number: 26996 Region or Memorial: France Name: Bertie Cooper Birth Place: Braintree Residence: Braintree Death Date: 9 Apr 1917 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Braintree Rank: Private Regiment: Essex Regiment Battalion: 9th Battalion Regimental Number: 26996 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Name: Bertie Cooper Gender: Male Death Date: 9 Apr 1917 Rank: Private Regiment: Essex Regiment Regimental Number: 26996
Effects to father Joseph, sole legatee
Awarded the British & Victory medals
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13 Oct 2018 11:40 |
George Cooper Birth Place: Braintree, Essex Residence: Braintree, Essex Death Date: 5 Aug 1917 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Chelmsford, Essex Rank: Rifleman Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles Battalion: 10th Battalion Regimental Number: 41213 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 2431, Essex Regt.
Ireland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1922 Name: George Cooper Regiment: Royal Irish Rifles Regimental Number: 41213 Death Date: 5 Aug 1917 Death Place: France Birth Place: Braintree, England
UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 Effects to father Joseph
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13 Oct 2018 12:08 |
Returning to the children. There's a tree on Ancestry suggesting that Minnie 1877 died unmarried
Name: Minnie Cooper Death Age: 69 Birth Date: abt 1877 Registration Date: Dec 1946 Registration district: essex South Western Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5a Page: 191 .......... They have a note against Joseph William Cooper saying
1915 • India and Bagdad Quartermaster in the India Army - relocated to Baghdad, where he was shot in shoulder - invalid back to England ......
Ellen is supposed to have married Bertie Oscar Day
Name: Ellen Cooper Registration Year: 1910 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Braintree Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 1154 Records on Page: Name Kate Emily Byford Ellen Cooper Bertie Oscar Day
1939 register Day Household (3 People) 29 Grenville Road , Braintree and Bocking U.D., Essex, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Ellen Day 18 Oct 1886 Female Domestic (Unpaid) Married 114 2 Bertie O Day 10 Oct 1882 Male Brush Maker Pan Hat Married 114 1 Geoffrey B Day 23 Apr 1911 Male Insurance Agent Single 114 3
Geoffrey's birth reg DAY, GEOFFREY BRUCE mmn COOPER GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 844
Marriage Geoffrey B Day Registration Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943 Registration district: Braintree Inferred County: Essex Spouse: Winifred E Partridge Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 2119
They had a daughter, b 1945 Braintree. Details on freebmd.
Geoffrey's probate entry Name: Geoffrey Bruce Day Death Date: 27 Nov 1991 (lived in) Bocking Braintree Probate Date: 21 Feb 1992 Registry: London
Value of estate £157448 You could order a copy of the Will to see the names of the beneficiaries or executors. £10 from https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills Alternatively, his DC from GRO for £9.25
Geoffrey Bruce Day Death Age: 80 Birth Date: 23 Apr 1911 Registration Date: Nov 1991 Registration district: Braintree Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 1521
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13 Oct 2018 12:23 |
Ignoring Ernest, not being confident with further 'follow through' records, it might be worth pursuing the Geoffrey Bruce Day line. Unfortunately, his daughter doesn't have an uncommon name. Hence the suggestion of purchasing a copy of his will &/or dc
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14 Oct 2018 14:38 |
I once knew an Alan Cooper from Braintree, he had red hair and freckles. If you have ever read "Mad" magazine he was a dead ringer.
South Street is a long meandering street of mostly small somewhat ramshackle houses. Some of them have been demolished and rebuilt. Also in S Street is the Warner Bros silk mill founded by the Huguenots.It was still in commercial production not that long ago. Now it is a museum with working looms. The Queen's coronation robes were woven at Warner's (later Courtalds).
Also from S Street is the Railway Approach. One of my rellies had a large house there though somewhat short of a mansion.
Braintree was at one time famous for metal windows made by Crittalls. There are still quite a few great art deco houses with these windows.
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14 Oct 2018 17:59 |
A relative here......
https://www.nivets.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?7733-Cooper-brothers-of-Braintree
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14 Oct 2018 21:03 |
Details of the Geoffrey Day marriage (from SEAX ref D/P 264/1/43 Image 100):
10th July 1943 at St Michael's Braintree, after banns Geoffrey Bruce Day age 32 bachelor, soldier, of 29, Grenville Road Braintree; Winifred Edith Partridge, age 32, spinster, traveller, of 152, Panfield Lane, Bocking Fathers: Bertie Oscar Day brush maker; Robert James Partridge farmer. Witnesses: Ken J Partridge, E Day.
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14 Oct 2018 21:43 |
The Sun brush works at that time were in Manor St., Braintree.
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15 Oct 2018 17:14 |
PM sent to N17 reminding him to check & acknowledge the posts on this thread. 16 Oct @ 1039. Msg not accessed
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22 Oct 2018 01:01 |
Thanks, I have seen this and hope to take it further. I am currently making a short film in honour and remembrance of the Cooper Brothers and their sacrifice in WW1.
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4 Nov 2018 16:51 |
I am very confused about this, as these records show the mother's maiden name as Hurrell, when my tree (and my wife's own recollections) shows her name and that of her entire family as Ward
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4 Nov 2018 17:01 |
COOPER, BERTIE HURRELL GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 668
COOPER, HARRY HURRELL GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 563 Order
COOPER, ARTHUR HURRELL GRO Reference: 1888 J Quarter in BRAINTREE Volume 04A Page 611 Order I have repeated the birth search s above from the General Register Office . All Mother's Maiden Name Hurrell.
It's difficult to dispute the facts from GRO. Could Ward be another strand of the family?
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4 Nov 2018 17:11 |
Repeated the search just to double check with MMN Ward - no results in everyone so the MMN can't be Ward.
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