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RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 10 Sep 2018 21:01

You are looking in the wrong place.
genesreunited.co.uk web traffic is carried by cogentco.com.
The performance of your connection will depend on what kind of peering your isp has with cogentco.com and other major networks.
You can try opening a command shell and pinging
213.128.240.86
If the ping time is around 40ms or better you should be ok but if it is much slower or times out all together then yr problem is with yr ISP.GR/Scotland not being important none of them will lift a finger though if the connection to a top site was playing up ( affecting ad revenues) then action would be swift.

It is not unknown for large networks to get into fights over carrying each other's data. Users experience this as slow downs of varying intensity and even loss of access.This happens now with supposed "net nutrality". D Trump wishes to abandon net neutrality which would be the end for small and recondite sites.

GR themselves cannot do much about it. Their suggestion to flush the cache is a good one though inconvenient.

fwiw the "cookies" do not refer to file locations on yr computer. They just contain transient data. The folder which contains the cookies is normally hidden under Windows but you can unhide it if you wish to and read the cookies or at least the parts which are not encrypted. Extremely boring.

Enjoy

You can always go down the pub or pick up your knitting. I spent a nice day at the Oval but will I suppose have to do some work tomorrow however pointless.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 11 Sep 2018 13:03

ISP DNS service is often as slow as treacle which can cause problems. Here is a free fix.

https://www.howtogeek.com/164981/how-to-switch-to-opendns-or-google-dns-to-speed-up-web-browsing/

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 12 Sep 2018 09:18

I had great difficulty getting on to GR this morning.....error message after error message after error message :-| :-|

Even the first message I sent to ' Contact Support' when to error message :-| :-|

Not a happy bunny :-| :-|

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 12 Sep 2018 09:54

Just had a Message from Support saying the problem has now been resolved and should work correctly :-)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Sep 2018 20:09

I couldn't get on here at all last night ................ ca 3 am UK time.

I tried for about 10 minutes .......... errors at each stage from getting on GR, then trying My Threads, or General Chat because My Threads didn't wokr.

First time it has been SO bad for me.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Sep 2018 20:18

It took 3 attempts for me, as well :-|

To give them their due, on my 'error' page, it does say to contact them,and has a link.

I presume that means they admit the problem's at their end - and we haven't all got cr*p connections!

SuffolkVera

SuffolkVera Report 12 Sep 2018 21:07

I am coming to the conclusion that I must be very lucky as I have no problems getting on and can't remember the last time I had an error message on any page. Hope I haven't spoken too soon - I've probably jinxed it now ;-)

I know very little about how this technology works so I don't know whether my lack of problems is anything to do with the fact that I always sign in and out and cookies/history etc. are cleared regularly. There are four or five genealogy sites and a couple of other sites that I use all the time. As I am signing in to these sites so regularly I can remember the passwords so it only takes seconds to do and I feel more comfortable logging out completely when I leave them.

Here's hoping I don't start getting the error message and you all stop getting them

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Sep 2018 21:14

...well, last night was the first time for me :-D

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 12 Sep 2018 21:43

There is no such thing as a "connection" on a routed packet based system such as the internet. That is the whole point of it. Back in DARPA days if a node become unavailable then the packet would simply be re-routed. The current massive concentration of internet nodes in a handful of centres is a really bad idea and goes against the original design grain of the net.

All soho internet services are based on a contention ratio which will change from moment to moment. A user uploading video could easily slow up the connection for everybody on the network segment for instance. Result varies from slowdown to failure. Typical contention ratio is 10:1 down. Up varies and can be really bad for those using DOCSIS 3.0 such as Virgin.

For serious stuff it is possible to get a "leased line" but v expensive and overkill for soho users.

The vast majority of small web sites have very little control at all of how data is routed from their web server to the user. They are able to "tune" the web server to some degree to take account of web traffic conditions.

The classic web server is called Apache and is rugged and well able to stand up and deliver no matter what.

For reasons to do with their parent company's main business GR do not use Apache but Microsoft IIS. IIS is really targetted at internal intranets where traffic can be rightly controlled. It is unsuitable for the public internet. One of the leading problems with it is that in order to avoid being hacked ( IIS is not very resilient) the response time for validating logins is very short. If the user's machine takes too long to log in then the dreaded connection error will arise. GR tech support can extend the wait time but only at the risk of lower security.

I use a mixture of leased line (at work), Vivid300 and 4G to connect to GR and have not had any kind of access error or tree unavailable in the last two years. Neither have I had any problem from outside of the UK.

YMMV.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 12 Sep 2018 22:05

If my car breaks down, I don't expect the mechanic or his 'monkey' to explain what he's doing.
In other words, I don't need to know about the mechanics, what I 'should' or 'should not' be buying in order for the mechanic to fix the car - that's his job.
I have different talents.
I won't stand there and explain how to make curtains, just because I can.

I've paid for a service, I expect that service to be delivered.

GR, in supplying a link to their customer service, obviously know about the situation, so one presumes it's their job to fix it.