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Anybody who thinks that the UK parliament has descended into farce and chaos has not been keeping up with our friends (?) down under.

And it won't be over until the fat lady sings!

We could be heading for our sixth PM in twelve years, and then next year we actually have an election so the door may keep revolving.

Oh yes, all this follows hard on the heels of the dual-citizenship debacle that saw several MPs being stripped from many parties of their Parliamentary seats

http://theconversation.com/how-a-dual-citizenship-row-ensnared-australian-mps-and-caused-headaches-for-pm-turnbull-32221

ha ha

"If in doubt, they can always ask their grandmothers."

UK, USA, OZ, Italy, Spain, South Africa
- democracy in chaos

They can always join the EU!!! After all, the Eurovision song contest has spread beyond Europe so why not the EU!!!

The Caneries are in Africa.
Ceuta and Melilla are in Africa.
Guyana is in S America
Gaudeloupe is in the Caribbean.
New Caledonia is much nearer to Queensland than Paris
Tahiti, last time I was there, was in the South Pacific.
All of these places are within the European Union.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W4o4VM2Kbc
:-)

The history of democracy is littered with the detritus of (almost exclusively male) egos bending truth and thriving on short-term fixes, seeing nothing except the next election.


'The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before'

A man is like a rusty wheel
On a rusty cart
He sings his song as he rattles along
And then he falls apart

And we'll sing hallelujah
At the turning of the year
And we work all day in the old-fashioned way
Till the shining star appears

A man is like a briar
He covers himself with thorns
He laughs like a clown when his fortune's down
And his clothes are ragged and torn

And we'll sing hallelujah
At the turning of the year
And we work all day in the old-fashioned way
Till the shining star appears

A man is like a three string fiddle
Hanging up on the wall
He plays when somebody scrapes on the bow
Or he cannot play at all

And we'll sing hallelujah
At the turning of the year
And we work all day in the old-fashioned way
Till the shining star appears

A man is like his father
Wishes he never was born
He longs for the time when the clock will chime
And he's dead forevermore

And we'll sing hallelujah
At the turning of the year
And we work all day in the old-fashioned way
Till the shining star appears

And we'll sing hallelujah
At the turning of the year
And we work all day in the old-fashioned way
Till the shining star appears

Richard Thompson

Did anyone think it was only a matter of time before Aussies (especially those living out woop-woop) decided that their wood stoves and fires, their 4-wheel drives (essential in places) and a rise in their food prices because of extra charges on diesel road trains would result in higher living costs for them?

It is all very well setting targets on emissions but not all governments have accepted them, least of all those of the world's developing nations.

If push came to shove, I can't think of any government that would happily hand over its responsibilities to any opposition parties nor leaders willing to relinquish their posts if they could remain in power by acquiescing to an abolition of policy on such as this.

Incidentally, has anyone checked out how Trump's doing because it was my understanding that he was going to bring back manufacturing industries into his fold to appease the jobless and lower unemployment.

While many of these were making use of cheap labour, a good few were dirty industries and all they entail sited in other countries so the US could remain 'clean'.

The US environmentally clean?
No chance at all. Just look at the damage that fracking has caused.

Trump, like most populists, promises things he can never deliver but people sign on to his ship of fools all the same. The rust belt remains the rust belt because there is no nobody who is going to put a buck into obsolete plant which demands expensive energy. In the UK towns such as Ebbw Vale, Middlesboro and Redcar have the same problem.

Australia does not have a government in the usual sense of the word but then neither does the UK.

It matters little whether people believe in climate change or not either way they will have to work out a way to live with it. Australia was understood by its native peoples. In little more than 200 years the Europeans have debauched it.

"Time is on my side, yes it is
Time is on my side, yes it is
Now you all were saying that you want to be free
But you'll come runnin' back (I said you would baby)
You'll come runnin' back (like I told you so many times before)
You'll come runnin' back to me, yeah"

Jagger

Not to mention the sun-belt so-called cleaner industries,

Rollo, did you miss my inverted commas indicating a tongue-in-cheek comment?

You can fool some of the people .... etc, springs to mind.

"What a tale my thoughts could tell
Just like an old time movie
About a ghost from a wishing well
In a castle dark or a fortress strong
With chains upon my feet
You know that ghost is me
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost you can see
If I could read your mind love
What a tale your thoughts could tell
Just like a paperback novel
The kind the drugstore sells
When you reach the part where the heartaches come
The hero would be me
Heroes often fail
And you won't read that book again
Because the ending's just too hard to take
"
G.L.

If the press is to be believed there could be a challenge as soon as today (Tuesday)

Well it happened and Turnbull survived, but it's going to be an interesting few weeks :-D

This has hit the nail on the head
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/opinion-this-latest-nonsense-in-canberra-is-exactly-why-australians-hate-politics/news-story/f380bf30cffc50152a01d58b6945ed85

How much to be a fly on the wall in their homes? :-0

We still have Mortein, JoyLouise ;-)

:-D :-D :-D

The Circus continues, it is now the turn of the clowns:

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/dutton-battles-to-get-signatures-for-his-petition/news-story/fe161c79565e93e91c0313caeba678f2

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/peter-dutton-could-be-derailed-as-prime-minister-before-he-even-takes-the-job/news-story/c0eaeee9cc6deb468a472fccf77d5511

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/malcolm-turnbull-has-gone-down-all-guns-blazing/news-story/a8601167293d16

Will the last politician to leave Canberra please turn out the lights!

All the queen's horses and all the queen's men....
Looks like a fair go for Australia then, enter (left) Bill Shorten a follower of Brutus.
:-0