General Chat

I see you're being your usual presumptuous, charming self, again RTR.

Have you thought that we CAN fathom technology, and treat most of it with the disdain it deserves?
Not everything 'new' and technological is good, as you point out in one part of your tirade - but then you go on to insult those who don't feel the need to buy the latest technology.
Please attempt to be consistent with your insults.

Wasn't there recently study that linked parent's obsession with cleanliness with childhood leukemias ?

I can remember back in the mid 80's (first child) apologising to the visiting Health Visitor. My 7/8 month old had grabbed something put it in his mouth before I had noticed and taken it off him.

My Health Visitor was a card carrying parent, not some youngster with no real life experience, and said..."He will be crawling soon and everything will go in his mouth so I really wouldn't worry, it is always good to build up an immunity as soon as possible".

My friends are now Grandparents and despair how their own children parent....Everything is sterile even to the point of using one use anti bacterial wipes for cleaning everything!

Damaging the children's immune system and polluting the environment?

Chris

I'm sure anyone that has problems with any of those items mentioned Rollo will thank you for your heartfelt views.

As for exposure...I believe in the ten min rule LOL if it looks clean it'll be fine....never killed my kids and they're fine and healthy when it comes to that sort of thing. :-D

I agree, Chris.
Daughter and I were amazed (and slightly concerned) that her younger, 7 month old would pick things up and look at them - not 'mouth' them!
Mind you, this child has, from an early age just looked at things/ situations, very quietly, and seriously, with her hands clasped in front of her, to the point that I referred to her as 'Blofeld'! :-D
However, daughter has a cat, I have cats, grand daughter pokes/pulls cats,
Cats walk all over the place, vomit hairballs wherever (but preferably on a carpet) etc. etc.

My elder daughter learnt to count using worms, at the age of 2 :-S
Whilst gardening, I'd dig up worms, daughter wanted to feed them to our ducks, I wanted them back in the soil. The compromise was, she could feed every third/fourth etc. worm to the ducks, so she lined the worms up, and had to count them! :-D

:-D :-D.....ah but was there any Gluten :-D :-D

Oh - forgot about that!
Yes, because she (youngest grandchild) eats pasta and pesto :-S
Even with no teeth! (another WTH situation)
So probably swallows stuff she can't actually chew - but can 'gum'. :-\
I'm beginning to be afraid of her already. :-S

:-D

Gluten is a protein, Rollo. It is found in cereals.

Did you ever look around and think he/she looks peaky?

When someone was sick in the pub did you automatically think he/she had drunk too much or could not handle his beer?

Did you ever mix with someone who seemed to spend a huge amount of time in loos?

These can be signs of undiagnosed coeliac disease.

If it goes undiagnosed for years, the person will be smaller and undernourished and suffer from osteporosis. I have read that the undiagnosed disease can also lead to onset of Alzheimer's but I have not seen any research by the Coeliac Society on that last one.

A person with Coeliac Disease cannot digest gluten. If it is undiagnosed and the person eats, let's call it 'normal' food there is every chance a visit to the loo will be swift for one or other purpose.

Beer, too. will be heaved up or go down the loo.

A close family member has Coeliac Disease so can not eat oats, wheat, barley or rye. Maize/cornflour is fine. Food is not a problem, he can eat meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, but never buys sandwiches, sausage rolls, pies, sweet tarts, cakes or biscuits when he's out unless it is specifically gluten-free.

In the olden days you can imagine what coeliac a looked like - not the healthiest-looking person around.

Food need not be a problem as long as one sticks to the gluten-free diet - no beer, but cider, wine and spirits are fine. It's simply knowing what one can eat and drink safely.

Since it became 'popular' with some people to have a gluten-free diet it has meant a bigger choice for a coeliac in stores and restaurants.

Apparently, the disease is more likely to be found among those of Irish descent - and, as well as Ireland, it is not uncommon in Australia - to me that indicates it was carried across by the many Irish convicts sent there.

The sad thing is that it can go undiagnosed for years because people do not recognise the symptoms early enough and tend to 'put up' with discomfort.

JoyLouise, I have two family members with Crohn's disease

I'm sure if RTR knew anyone with Coeliac or Crohn's disease, we would be bombarded with 'info' about it - his presumption being that only he would 'have the info', and the rest of us would be (as he usually assumes) totally ignorant.

As it stands, as with everything else he has had no experience with, it's apparently a 'nothing' disease, created by the ignorant and millenials, to annoy him, and his ilk.

I suppose women in Islington feel they " look better for spending a zillion bucks on esoteric anti wrinkle creams and misc "wipes" , but, as RTR so charmingly goes on to say: " just look like wrinklie old women with cream puff on top", but I'm sure the same applies to men in the area too - those who walk around with their 32" waist Levi's under their humungous bellies, convinced they're the same size they were 30 years ago :-D :-D

As for the presumption about TV's - well, maybe in your area, RTR, but I find anyone with young children (these tend to be under 40's) has a TV!!

By the way, Coeliac Disease can be inherited.

Now, I wonder whether anyone makes misted-over mirrors? :-D

:-D :-D :-D

Oh - and, RTR, as to your opening question on 12/06:
"Why didn't people die in their thousands as recently as 20 years ago from eating gluten"

This would be because neither Celiac nor Crohn's necessarily lead to death - just a life of discomfort, and extreme pain.

:-)