General Chat

Thanks Ann, yes I've lost one!! :-)) My grandmother Eunice Annie Dawes had 3 illegitimate children, 1 was adopted and 2 who were fostered when she disappeared about 1930 (she could well have more children that I don't know about). She was last seen in Wem, Shropshire on her way to Ruewood!! Have tried on and off over the years to find her but nothing, zero, zilch - I thinks she's been beamed up!!

Jxx

Nobody else lost anyone. Nudging up as it is a real genealogical thread. Just in case anyone missed it.

Keep adding, you never know somebody might have 'found' them.

My Great Great Grandfather has three brothers that just vanish off the census's 1 births registered and the other two christened then absolutely nothing!

David Fardoe Christened at St Oswalds Oswestry 01/01/1843 vanishes after 1861 census.
James Fardoe Christened at Selattyn on 18/08/1844 born 27/07/1844 vanishes after 1851 census.
Peter Fardoe Born Dec Q 1860 Oswestry

I have looked at the burial records at the local churches and can find nothing.

I am sure if they wanted to avoid the census they managed to somehow.

ann
Glos

yes i have that problem to Ann my g,g,grandparentsCatherine and Henry Dwyer married 1839 no sign on 1841only census they are on is 1851 with two daughters and one son Henry jnr not on 61/71 but old Henry turns up dead 1875,Henry Jnr marries in 1871 Pelsall Staffs next sighting of him is in london on 1881 with wife Hannah and their two Daughters,then he turns up dead in 1888,no idea where they all were in the inbetween years god they certainly knew how to dissappear off the face of the earth and make life difficult eh??Jean.

I have loads that seem to just vanish - more often than not they are girls that vanish. I can usually trace them to, say, the age of 18 on a census and then it gets to the next census (by which time they could reasonably have married and had families of their own) and there's nothing.

It is very odd - often I will come up with several potential marriages in the right location for them but they just will not be found in the next census. If I'm lucky, I find that they died after marriage but before the first post-marriage census but I can never tie them down to a potential husband.

And that's usually the point when the mistranscriptions on Ancestry get more annoying than usual . . .

Just read Susan's suggestion on page 7 (very good idea) - the girls I am particularly looking for are Elizabeth Branston (b. 19 Mar 1845, Bottesford, Leics, disappears after 1861 - have eliminated an Eliza Daybell and an Elizabeth Charity in 1871 who match the description) and her sister Sarah Anne (b. 18 Mar 1852, Bottesford), disappears after 1861 (checked up on Sarahs who married William Peet and Joseph Coley).

Aaah! a conspiracy!

Perhaps a whole group of people went off to live in some French Commune - they happen to be all of our missing rellies. And they're looking down on us now and laughing their socks off !!!!!!

K

Perhaps they are all in France!!

Anyone know if there are passenger lists for Europe? c 1842?


Karen, sounds like a brick wall to me!!

I assume you have checked marriages George, in case she re-married after her husband died?

Ann
glos

George, I wonder if she remarried quite soon after the death of her husband in 1877, which would mean a change of name, but then there should be a marriage record. Hmmmm.
Perhaps she went overseas???

Anything, Julia,.
I'm at the clutching at straws stage!!!!!!

But the one who has disappeared off the face of the earth married a Whittlesey, he wasn't one originally!

I do have rellies on granny's side from Cambs, the Whittlesey side, so I have an assortment of Parish Records and all sorts (Cambs), so if you'd like to PM me I'd be happy to help you out if I can.

K

P.S. Thanks Anne from Berks.

I forgot to add if you let Ancestry know of the error in a surname they will add a correction so it will help others in their search, I have done this several times and they always respond.

Karen in the Desert - I have rellies in Whittlesey, and one in particular I cannot find. Should we put our heads together
Julia in Derbyshire

Going back to Ann in Berkshire's posting.....yes, it is definitley worthwhile searching in Ancestry in different ways to the obvious.
I had a lot of trouble finding 2 families in 1871 census, yet I know they were all still alive then because they're in later census'.

In Ancestry search I put in all details except surname. Sure enough I found them.
One lot had been given the name of the next door neighbours in the index, but it was clear to see on the actual census return what their real surname was.
The other was mistranscribed - from Whittlesey to Chillberg!! I would never have found them, despite my attempts to spell Whittlesey a hundred different ways!!

K

Deanna.............................Lol


Love and Peace
Marianne.x

Joanne - My Grandad is David Williams of Wales!!!

Marianne... if shouting at them worked.... I would have found them all by now. ;-0)

Deanna X

Oh yes, Ann.....I've got a right corker...my Dad's father!!

Seems he was born on planet Mars.
He managed to avoid appearing on the 1901 Census (or maybe they didn't have those on Mars?).
He makes his first of 2 official appearances in 1920 when he married my Dad's mother (I have the original cert). On that he says he was a postman, but that was a fib cos I've had the London postal workers archives checked. His address at the time was the family home of his intended, so no clue for me to work on there.

He makes his second official appearance in 1927 on my Dad's birth cert (I have the original). Here he says he's a labourer, so at least he's not pretending to be a postman any more!!
He disappears from my Dad's life around 1930, then turns up at the house one day in 1934 and gets sent off with a flea in his ear from granny. And whooooosh! he disappears for good...for ever and ever...back to planet Mars.

Of course, if he was born overseas, then that would explain why no birth record, no 1901 census listing, no death record. He may have gone back to his country of origin after granny wouldn't take him back, quite likely he did. Only trouble is, where on earth was that place? Talk about needles in haystacks.

Oh, and I've checked through WW1 and WW2 records just in case. And I've checked goodness knows how many Ships Lists, and I've checked births for England & Wales as well as USA, Canada, Scotland.
Would like to try Ireland but don't knw where to start with just a name and approx year of birth.

Am I allowed to call this a brick wall??