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desperately need you expert help again. I am so grateful for the help of which I have received and need it again fellow genies.
Charles Mcall 1843

I have found him married to my gg grandma Ann Irving. And am stuck. He appears on the 1851 census dumfries scotland. Then married 1871 to Ann Irving with my g granfater Robert Irving. They then disappear until 1901 in Lances and have a grandaughter Annie black living with them. Would desperately like to fill in these gaps. Have been tracing my Irving line to no avail until now and hope i have the right link. My grandfather Thomas Irving was born Cumbria 1898 and his father was Robert.

any help gratefully accepted - indebted to you all again - thanks julie x

Is this the marriage? Note the spelling.

Marriages Dec 1867
IRVING Ann W. Ward 10b 985
MACAULAY Charles W. Ward 10b 985

Rose

1881 England Census
about Ann Mc Call
Name: Ann Mc Call
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Walton Le Dale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Darwen Bank Lodge
Condition as to marriage: Married
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Gamekeepers Wife
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Walton Le Dale
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Mc Call 39
Charles Mc Call 38

Rose

1891

48 Berry? Street

Ann McCall
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Where born: Lowther, Westmorland,

Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: St John

Ann McCall 49
Charles McCall 48 General Labourer, (says born Lowther Westmoreland)
Thomas McCall 25 Cart Driver born Lowther

Class: RG12; Piece: 3440; Folio 54; Page 3; GSU roll: 6098550.

Gail

1891 England Census
about Ann McCall
Name: Ann McCall
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Lowther, Westmorland, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann McCall 49
Charles McCall 48
Thomas McCall 25

Rose

1871

Ann McAll
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Where born: Lowther, Westmorland,

Civil Parish: Kirkby Thore
Town: Kirkby Thore
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Appleby

Robert Irving 10 Son in Law, Scholar born Lowther, Westmorland
Ann McAll 29
Charles McAll 28 Groom, born Dumfries Scotland

Class: RG10; Piece: 5269; Folio: 114; Page: 12; GSU roll: 847453.

Gail

1901

Robert Irving

Robert Irving
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Where born: Whale, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Arthuret
Ecclesiastical parish: Arthuret St Michael
County/Island: Cumberland

Registration district: Longtown
Sub-registration district: Low Longtown

Alexander C Irving 9
Elizabeth Irving 39
John G Irving 3
Mary Ellen Irving 14
Robert Irving 40 Teamster.
Robert Irving 11
Sarah J Irving 7
Thomas Irving 2

Class: RG13; Piece: 4862; Folio: 51; Page: 4.


and Robert with Ann in 1861

Robert T Irving
Age: 2 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Ann
Where born: Whale, Westmorland, England

Civil Parish: Lowther
County/Island: Westmorland

Registration district: West Ward
Sub-registration district: Lowther

Ann Irving 20 Daughter, House Servant (out of place)
Elisabeth Irving 45 Wife
Robert Irving 47 Head
Robert T Irving 2 Mo Grandson

Class: RG9; Piece: 3962; Folio: 34; Page: 9; GSU roll: 543213.

Gail

Duplicate on Trying to Find board

http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=999262

and both threads look like reproductions of another one ...



Julie, if you haven't read the GUIDELINES FOR MESSAGE BOARD USE, it's time.

One post per topic.

Multiple people have done the same work for you now, and I'll bet they're just thrilled about it.

Luckily it looks like different census results.............

I cannot see where Annie Black grandaughter comes from - did Ann and Charles have a daughter?

Gail.

Nudge for Julie

Gail