Genealogy Chat

My father is adopted and does not have his orginal birth certificate. He was born in 1934. The website scotlands people brings up one match for that area and year of his birth but because it is so new i cannot view it on line and will have to pay £10 for the extract.

As i have limited information i am not entirely sure that this is the correct certificate. Is there another way of seeing the birth certificate without getting sent the extract?

Sorry for the long winded explanation.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Wendy

If your father is still alive it would be best if he approached the local social services. The Scottish system is slightly different to England/Wales.

I was born and adopted in England but started searching when i moved to Scotland. The social worker remarked on how much more work is involved with obtaining English records and how much easier the Scottish system is.

I would suggest that he speaks with them and asks how to go about obtaining his original certificate, though it may take a little longer than an order direct to the GROS and may not be any cheaper he may well be given some other information too.

Seeing as they would be able to check the names/dates etc it would be the correct certificate and avoid the guesswork.

Glen

Thanks Glen, I will see what he says.

Do you think the genelogy departments would have information that new as i think i might go to the one in edinburgh within the next couple of weeks?

Wendy

The GROS (General Register Office for Scotland) is based in Edinburgh, they are the Scottish equivalent of the GRO. They hold all the records including those which are later than the ones on Scotlandspeople.

The other option would be to contact the office local to the event but you would only be able to view the extract after purchasing it whether you went via the GROS or a local office.

I'm not 100% sure but i think the Social Services option might be a tad cheaper but a bit more longwinded. They would have access to additional information though.

Glen

Hi Dean.


Where you looking under his adoptive name or his birth name ? If it was his adoptive name then there will be no match as a birth is only ever reg under one name and that is the birth name, and entry is then made later in the GRO reg under the adoptive name


This address may help you it where the adoption records in Scotland are kept.

The General Register Office (Scotland)
Adoption Section
New Register House
Edinburgh
EH1 3YT
Scotland

if you have a look on

www.lookupuk(.)com

you can find more infor for adoptees.

Hi Glen

How are you? not seen you around much or on the adoptees thread .

Hi Sheila

I'm struggling along, working away all week again but i'm on the sick at the moment.

I finally met a half sibling just before xmas, found a pile of cousins etc and now i know that my b/f had at least twelve kids in addition to me (add the three my mother had and i now know of 15 half siblings!!!).

Glen

Hi Glen,

Hope your feeling better now, how did the meeting go? Gosh your family tree has exploded, thought I had a few siblings to trace, bet your Christmas card list will be expensive next year!
Anyway happy hunting !

By the way Wendy is your father still living if you wish to view adoption records, think only he will have access to them.

Good Luck!

Hi Dean
I am assuming your father knows his birth name in order to apply for his original birth certificate. However, if he doesn't he will have to go through formal channels.

I helped a young Scottish woman who didn't know her birth name (she wasn't online at the time) apply for her original birth certificate to GROS and this is part of the email after making a request for it.

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Dear xxxx

Thank you for your recent e-mail requesting your original birth certificate.

Before your original certificate can be issued the enclosed declaration form must be completed and returned to this office along with documentary evidence of your identity in the name xxxxx and the fee of £13.00. A baptismal, school or marriage certificate, medical card, driving licence, insurance policy or other similar document would suffice.

An extract or abbreviated certificate from the Adopted Children Register is not suitable as evidence of your identity for this purpose nor are photocopies of documents.

We will also inform you where the Court Process Papers relating to your adoption are held. These may hold further information with regard to the adoption.


Yours sincerely
****
Just to add, although you can print off the Declaration form GROS send you by email... you then have to send everything back by post.

Hope this information helps and Good Luck.
Cheers Gerry

hi dean you have been givien very good info good luch and to glenn good to see you on line and boy has your family expanded good luck regards dorothy canada