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Ivy

I have assumed (maybe wrongly) that Frederick has left Sarah and she has found work 'in service' to support herself. Also when she inherits her father's money she goes to live with her sister & husband.

I have wondered if he emigrated, I will ask for another look up - maybe I will strike lucky! Maybe most of the children went with him as I can only find Frederick after 1871.

Many thanks Terri

Hi Terri,

Does the will mean that Sarah has moved to Notting Hill, or that Frederick is working there?

I wonder if Frederick emigrated? Ancestry.com (Sorry not a subscriber) appears to have references to FRederick James Head in both Australia and in Canada.

Hi Terri, just posting 1851 for ref:

Name: Fredrick Head
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James (this is his grandfather)
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastbourne

Civil Parish: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Westham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a

Household schedule number: 213
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick Head 34 father - engineer
Fredrick Head 16 (the one sought for 1871 and 1881)
George Head 4
James Head 63 baker (head of household)
Kathrine Head 14
Maria Head 13
Sarah Head 36
Thomas Head 3

Hi Heather

Yes I agree, Sarah's father would not have needed to mention him if he were dead, so I know he died after the Will was written 1885, but not knowing where he was in 1871 or 1881 makes it difficult to pinpoint him.

Regards Terri

Hi Ivy

The two Frederick's on the 1841 census are the correct family, the son is Frederick James and the father Frederick William.

Regards Terri

Libby - sorry didn't answer your question, have only been able to find one child on any census after 1871, Frederick. In 1881 he was in Poplar, 1891, Stratford and 1901 West Ham.

Regards Terri

If he were an engineer he may have worked in other parts of the country. The ages of the kids will narrow down a death and Id have thought the father in laws will would have referred to "widow" rather than wife if he were dead at that time.

Hi Libby

Many thanks for going to the trouble of looking up Sarah but I have found her already.

I am trying to find Frederick on the 1871 and 1881. He is not with his family - I can only assume he is a lodger or with living with someone else!! I cannot find his death until I know what part of the country he is in.

Regards Terri

- and 1841 for ref:

Name: Frederic Head
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Eastbourne
Hundred: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Head 7
Frederic Head 6
Frederick Head 25
Maria Head 3
Rebwiah Head 4
Sarah Head 26
Victoria Head 4 Mo
William Head 2

These are the only two Fred* Head names on the 1841 census for Sussex

Many thanks for looking.

Frederick is not with Sarah on the 1871 or 1881 as I have found her on these two census. So he is either with someone else or a lodger!

I have him with his parents and siblings on the 1841 census in Eastbourne, all born in county.

On the 1861 census states born Eastbourne.
Also on the IGI born 1834, with correct wife and father.

Regards Teresa

Hi Terri,

Using Ancestry I cannot find ANY Frederick [James] Head born circa 1834 at Eastbourne!!!

However, there are entries 1861 to 1891 for a Frederick Head, with wife Sarah in Suffolk -
Have you proof that Frederick James Head was born at Eastbourne in 1843 ish?

Looking for Frederick James Head b. 1834/5 Eastbourne, Sussex.

He is living with his wife Sarah and two children on the 1861 census, but I cannot find him on the 71 or 81.

On the 1871 census his wife is living in Eastbourne with 7 children states 'wife of engineer'.

On the 1881 census she is living with her sister in Hastings.

I have found him in Post Office Directory of 1866 - Engineer to the Waterworks, the Borough Old Town.

He was obviously not popular with his father-in-law as in his Will of 1885 he states 'to Sarah wife of Frederick James Head, now in service at 15 Norland Place, Nottinghill, London, for her own sole and seperate use'.

On the 1861 census I found him transcribed as Frederick James.

Any help would be much appreciated, I'd love to find him.

Regards Terri