Genealogy Chat

Sara J. Day in 1841 with her sister Mary who ended up being housekeeper for John Lister on the 71 census after Sarah died.
Millers Yard, Whitby, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Day, 30
Sarah, 8
Mary, 6
Elizabeth, 4
Helen, 3
Maria, 1
Thomas, 2 months
All born in county.

As I said earlier, Stu, Sarah J. Day, born 1833, Whitby was a servant in Ugthorpe, Yorks on the 51 census.
Margaret

Marriage

Sarah Jane Swales
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Helmsley
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 591

only one man and one woman on index so far - man is James Sample


1861

Sarah Jane Sample
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitby
Town: Whitby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Whitby
Sub-registration district: Whitby
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Ann E Sample 6 b Middlesbrough
Sarah Jane Sample 28 married confectioner's wife


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3647; Folio: 144; Page: 33; GSU roll: 543166.


1871 same family

Sarah I Sample (Sarah J on image)
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Southampton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England


Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: Southampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Ann E Sample 15 b Middlesbrough on Tees
Charles P Sample 6 b Southampton
James Sample 43 b Whitby baker unemployed
Sarah I Sample 37
Sarah J Sample 4 b Southampton


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1187; Folio: 60; Page: 9; GSU roll: 827809.

From this I would suggest that John Lister married Sarah J Day and not Sarah J Swales.

Andy

I know Sarah J Swales was born in Whitby c1833. Looking on the 1861 census there in only one Sarah J, born in Whitby, +/- 1 year of 1833 and that is the one married to John Lister. So I'm certain It's John Laidler in 1851 . . . . . all very confusing!

Thanks Andy, that looks like him . . . . thankyou.

1841 living in Hetton le Hole

John Lister
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Houghton Le Spring
Hundred: Easington (North Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Houghton le Spring
Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Lister 12
John Lister 40 Joiner J (journeyman)
John Lister 10
Margaret Lister 8
Mary Lister 40
William Lister 6


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 312; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Houghton Le Spring; County: Durham; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 5; Page: 5; Line: 24; GSU roll: 241354.


Andy

1851 mistranscribed to put it mildly

John Laidler
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jame
Gender: Male
Where born: Hetton, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England


Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 10h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
John Thomas Ceaggs 20 Jane Hannah Craggs house servant
Able Laidler 9 I think she is Alice daughter
Jame Laidler 52 Jane wife
John Laidler 20 John Lister shopman
William Laidler 44 head grocer and coal ????


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2384; Folio: 467; Page: 5; GSU roll: 87062.

It says shopman in the relationship column for John so I take it he worked in the grocer's shop which ties in with him being a grocer in 1861.

Andy

I can't find John in 1851 either, Stu.
There's a Sarah J. Day, born 1833 Whitby, who is a servant in Ugthorpe, Yorks.
Yes I'm still convinced his wife is Sarah J. Day.
Margaret

Margaret - That's the family I have found in the '61 & '71, but I can't find John in the '51!

I'm going to have to double check that his wife was a Swales!

The same John Lister from the 61 census with 2 month old daughter Mary E. is on the 71 census, age 39, born Hetton le Hole, a widower with daughter Mary E., now 10, Sarah J., 9 and John J., 7. he has a housekeeper Mary Ann Day, born 1835 Whitby. (Sarah's sister?)

Just looked back, Stu, and I see you have the wife as Sarah Swales.
Are you sure about that? A Sarah Swales married in Whitby 1856 but not to John Lester/Lister.

Are you sure it's Lester and not Lister? On the 61 census it could be Lister.
Free BMD has a marriage of John Lister and Sarah Jane Day 1858 Stockton.
It's also John Lister on the Tees Valley Indexes.

I've looked under Lester, Lister & anything that sounds like it but as yet found nothing!

you'll find their marriage on this site

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You'll need to know when they marriage..if his names been mistrancribed he'll be easier to pick up with either 1 or both parents

I don't know when they married I guess between 1851 & 1861.

Sarah's maiden name was Swales.

the one i put up ain't them when did they marry

I'll look for their birth year in my threads

John Lister
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Tudhoe, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Willington
Ecclesiastical parish: Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Durham(Street Indexed)
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Brown 28
Robert Brown 4 Mo
John Lister 31
Mary Jane Lister 11 Mo
Sarah Lister 26
Elizabeth Thompson 7

What was the childrens birth years as i can't remember