Genealogy Chat

If they were in Ireland, you'd be out of luck, as I understand it!

Was he actually "a soldier" in 1901? He's lodging in the household of a bricklayer with three other ordnance surveyors, and the census notation for their occupation is "Civ E", civil engineer, I imagine. Might he have gone civil service or private sector rather than military by then?

(I'm not familiar with the specific term "ordnance surveyor". From googling, it seems to be what's just called a surveyor, in my time and place.)

I think they might have been in ireland him being a soldier???

1901

Name: Henry Shave
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickhambrook, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Wickhambrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Wickhambrook All Saints
Town: Wickhambrook
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Wickhambrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Shave 75
William Ernest Shave 29

So she is not with father

1881 just posting for info

Name: Allthea Shave
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Wickhambrook, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Wickhambrook
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Risbridge
Sub-registration district: Wickhambrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Allthea Shave 19
Annie M. Shave 8
Charles Shave 12
Clara M. Shave 14
David Shave 17
Ellen E. Shave 1
Harriet Shave 4
Henry Shave 55 Wickhambrook, carpenter
John Shave 6
Walter H. Shave 16
William E. Shave 10

yes she was a Shave.

Thats the right Alethea . Can you find her in 1901

That's the one I was going by -- and searching by that info for Alethea (or althea, or ale* or ali* or no given name) Hammersley (or hammer* or hamer* or no surname) ... etc.

No death found for the daughter, and tried searching by her birth details as well.

No apparently relevant deaths; two marriages in the 1890s for Alethea Hammersley-s, but no apparent connection there!

I do wonder whether Alethea mother and daughter maybe weren't abroad. Not sure what socioeconomic class we're talking about, but it might be a possibility.

She was a Shave:

Marriages Dec 1888
COOK John Risbridge 4a 1059
HAMMERSLEY Isaac Risbridge 4a 1059
SHAVE Alethea Emily Risbridge 4a 1059

-- maybe we should go back and verify those birth details, or look for her with Shaves in 1901.

Me, I got work just arrived in my inbox, so I pass the torch!

1891 is this the family?
Name: Alethea E Hammersley
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Wickhambrook, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Thirsk
Ecclesiastical parish: Thirsk
Town: Thirsk
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Thirsk
Sub-registration district: Thirsk
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alethea E Hammersley 29
Alethea M Hammersley 1
Isaac Hammersley 32
Jane Snowden 76


just trying to work out birth place and year for Alethea

Thanks for the help Kathryn .

Sorry, not a sausage, not by hammer* or alethea (mother or daughter), throwing in and taking out birth details, not nowhere. Maybe someone else will have more luck! Alethea lends itself to mistranscription, of course, but nothing I've tried to work around works.

Maybe he left them on the Nile??

Not a trace of the Aletheas, by any trick! I'll try Sheffield specifically ...

My mum says he was in a team that surveyed the nile.

Thanks it looks like him . Can you find alethea in sheffield same time . Paul

Isaac in 1901 -- you meant Isaac, not Isacc, right?


Name: Isaac Hammersley
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester

Civil Parish: Tewkesbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Tewkesbury Holy Trinity
Town: Tewkesbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Tewkesbury
Sub-registration district: Tewkesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 92

Albert Chapman 27
Isaac Hammersley 40
Geo Healey 46
Harriet Healey 45
John King 28
J Savage 20

Married, Ordnance Surveyor, must be him.

Can some help me please i am trying to find Isacc and alethea hammersley in 1901 they married in suffolk in 1888. Isacc was a soldier in the royal enginers.thanks Paul.