Genealogy Chat

Again many thanks, think I will get the certs for ellen and edward, see if anything matches-if it does think granny has some explaining to do

Or....there's this marriage, with a bride & a groom missing from the page - you could order the Sarah Dutton cert.

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
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ADAMS William Ernest Birmingham 6d 12
DUTTON Sarah Ann Birmingham 6d 12



Although I did check the image for that qtr & there wasn't a Dovey. Unless the name was mistranscribed or omitted from the index.

Yes, I now believe she was just living with Mr Dovey, but to add to the confusion I have found, in the 1901 census, a Sarah Dovey, who roughly fits sarah dutton, but she is already a widow with an 8 yr old daughter. Can't find a sarah dutton or dovey in 1891.

heres Edwards GRO ref

Mar qtr 1921

Edward Dovey mmn Dutton Birmingham 6d 430.

That will give Mr Dovey's christian name

I would get one of the Birth certs for a Dovey child

Maybe she lived with Mr Dovey and didnt actually marry . In order to save face and protect her children reg Dovey she described herself as a widow when she married Frederick Parkinson

Thanks for the replies. Info I have: The sarah ann dutton living with grandparents is the right one. Her Fathers name was George. Sometime before 1912 she married/changed her name to Dovey, and had children the latest being born was edward in march 1921. In 1924, at the age of 48, she "had" to get married to fredrick parkinson, and on this cert she is a widow. If there was child from this marriage I can't find it, I personally believe there may have been a "miss" or she was going through the change-sorry to be in delicate. As sarah parkinson she was still alive into the 1930s, as my mom brn 1928 knew granny sarah. Again thanks for the help

1901 clutching at straws with this suggestion

Name: Eliza Bennett
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Polesworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Lozells St Silas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members: Name Age
Beatrice Bennett 19
Clara Bennett 28
Eliza Bennett 56
Flora Bennett 24
Maria Bennett 33
May Bennett 16
Rose Bennett 26
Joseph Povey 8


Two reasons for this suggestion. Eliza is the right age and birth place to match the 1881 census. I can not find a birth for Povey but there is one for Dovey

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Dovey Joseph Birmingham 6d 37



Best match in 1901 but age a bit out
Name: Sarah Dovey
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: B'Ham

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Dovey 5
Sarah Dovey 28 listed as widow
Alice Horton 29
Emma Horton 59

Realy strange that there are 2 possible births for Sarah Ann Dovey in 1876 one in Aston and the other in Dudley

One for Sarah Ann Dutton in 1876 Birmingham

What is the name of the father on the 1924 marriage cert?

1881 but no idea if the right one
Name: Sarah A. Dutton
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Back of 43
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Banks 8
Margaret Banks 6
Eliza Dutton 34 Polesworth, daughter to Starkey
Sarah A. Dutton 5
James Smith 10
Thomas Smith 12
Charles Starkey 24
James Starkey 64
Sarah Starkey 61


Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Dutton George Birmingham 6d 27
Hartland Rosana Catherine Birmingham 6d 27
STARKEY Eliza Birmingham 6d 27
Wilkins William Birmingham 6d 27

So could she have been born Sarah Ann DUTTON and married husband No 1 and becomes Sarah Ann ??

On his demise she remarries and Sarah Ann ?? becomes Sarah Ann Dovey.

Sadly hubby No2 dies and the widow Sarah Ann Dovey then marries Mr Parkinson in Birmingham in 1924 when aged 48.

Now you tell us her christian name!!!


Honestly!


It would have helped to have that information at the beginning!



BUT as I say, there is no other Dovey/Dutton marriage between 1900 and 1924 showing on freebmd.



sylvia

BTW

the marriage that Alan found is the ONLY Dovey/Dutton marriage that shows up ............. I just used the surnames in my search, no forenames.



Are you sure you got her maiden anme and first married name the right way round?



sylvia

Alan

Thanks for the info, but no. Her maiden name was Dutton, Sarah Ann, and her married name was Dovey

There are several death registrations for Frederick Dutton between 1901 and 1925 ........ but this is the only one registered at Bromsgrove.


Go to www.freebmd.org.uk to check out the others


Deaths Jun 1910 (92%)

Dutton Frederick William 63 Bromsgrove 6c 171



sylvia

Had my GGGrandmothers 1924 marriage cert today. Born in Birmingham abt 1876, it states she is a widow, first married name Dovey, maiden name Dutton. Prob is I cannot find any trace of her 1st wedding to Mr Dovey. Have looked on ancestry, and free bmd, but no luck. Can anybody tell me where else to look? Would'nt you know it just been called into work so will check later-thanks