Genealogy Chat

I've been looking for a James Garside, born around 1885 in Hull.

In the 1901 census the mother is called Emma Wood, married to James Wood and James Garside is noted as stepson (to the Head of the household), along with his younger brother Thomas.

Ten years earlier, the 1891 census lists both James and Thomas with a mother called Minnie Garside, a widow. All this seems to fit - except the fact that Minnie has turned into an Emma (assuming it IS the same family, of course!)

Any ideas?

Many thanks.

My Minnie was a Wilhelmina so not much help there :)

You could see what this site says

http://www.behindthename.com/

Mhairi

Thanks, Mhairi. It says Wilhelmina too.

Definitely not Emma!

I had a Minne who turned out to be an Ellen - I think it was simply a pet name because her mum was also Ellen.

But is there a chance this Emma can be a new wife?

In the 1901 census, the Garside boys are listed as stepsons to James Woods. I suppose James Woods could have been married to Minnie Garside, and if she died / left them, he could have continued to look after the boys, with a new wife called Emma in tow.

It all seems a bit unlikely, however! I don't know - this has stumped me. I guess I'll just have to order James's birth certificate and see who the parents are from that.

Thanks for all your help so far, guys.

Regards, Ellie

My Minnie was an Emily, just to confuse things lol

Have you managed to find a Marriage Registration for James Wood?

The 2 census you have them in - have you checked the original? I have found that both Emma and Minnie often get mistranscribed and even enumerated.

I have 2 Minnie's in my tree names in there own right.

Have found the following marriage in the right sort of area

Name: Minnie Allitt
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 257

possible husband Mottram Garside

death

Mottram Garside
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 48
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 79

also birth

Frederick Allitt Allitt
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Sculcoates
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 120

which could be the Frederick Garside on the 1891 census

However, cannot find any marriage of Minnie or Emma Garside after 1891

andy

Thanks everyone - especially Andy. There's quite a bit of info there!

Spot on with the area and Mottram isn't a particularly common name, is it?

I have ordered James's birth certificate and will see what names are listed for his parents and will go from there.

Many, many thanks to all of you who have contributed to this thread.

Regards, Ellie

Received James's birth certificate today and his parents are definitely Mottram Garside and Minnie, formerly Allitt - so thank you Andy.

I'll be able to go back through the earlier censes to find out more about them, but still stumped on the Emma bit!

Ellie