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I have two people (my 2gt and 3gt grandfathers) and there seems to be a lot of confusion over their surname.

My maiden name was Collins, but this seems to have been a spelling mistake about 1900 as before then everyone is down as Collin. The info I have on these two people is:

John Collin (name taken from list of dates written in family bible)
Died 13 Oct 1900 (date taken from bible)

1881 Census:
John Collin
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Kirkbampton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Little Bampton (The Building)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmers Labourer

Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Wigton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abarham I. Collin 9
John Collin 52
Martha Collin 55
Martha E. Collin 12
Mary Ann Collin 13
Thomas I. Collin 10
Elizabeth Waites 2


1861 Marriage certificate:
1st Aug John married Martha Studholme in Kirkbampton Parish Church, Cumberland. (I know this is the same person as I have Marthas details in the bible) His name is down as John CULLIN, fathers name James Cullin. John is living in Nealhouses, Thursby, Cumberland in 1861 and they are both working as husbandmen.

I can find no other info on John or James except these two documents, and cant find census records for any year except 1881 for John, and none at all for James.

I have been trying alternate spellings in ancestry and have so far tried; Collin, Cullin, Collen, Cullins, Cullen and Collins.

Anyone got any other ideas on tracking them down? Thanks?

Rachel, somehow I think your post is incomplete. (whoops you have just updated it lol)

1871
John Cullon Martha abt 1829 Wigton, Cumberland, England Head Little Bampton Cumberland

There is this James Collin in 1881 in the right area but he is unmarried and age will be too young, maybe a relation though.

Household:

Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability
Hannah PATTINSON Head W Female 54 Wigton, Cumberland, England Shop Keeper
Mgt. SANDERSON Sister U Female 57 Wigton, Cumberland, England
James COLLIN Brother U Male 65 Kirklinton, Cumberland, England Gardener Dom




Dwelling Charlesville
Census Place Wigton, Cumberland, England

RG11
Piece / Folio 5164 / 93
Page Number 2

Christine

I found them on the 1871..
Collon John 40
Martha 40
Agnes H daughter 16
Frederick W 14
Alfred G 12
Annie E 7
William H 5
Beatrice M 2
Moss Lane, Upper, Hulme, Manchester. Sue

John, Yep this is definitely them (thomas is my gt grandfather)

1871 Census:
John Cullon
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Little Bampton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Wigton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32
Household Members: Name Age
John Cullon 42
John Cullon 7
Martha Cullon 43
Martha E Cullon 2
Mary Ann Cullon 3
Thomas S Cullon 6 months
Catherine Graham 22

Anymore ideas anyone?? We now have 3 surnames; Collin, Cullin and Cullon.

Also, what do I record this family as??

1861 for John a farm servant

John Cullen
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cummersdale
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Carlisle
Sub-registration district: Dalston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members: Name Age
John Cape 55
Ann Cartner 17
John Cullen 29
Elizabeth Harrison 43
Elizabeth Harrison 6
John Harrison 40
John Harrison 1
Peter Harrison 8
William Harrison 16


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3924; Folio: 28; Page: 30; GSU roll: 543207.

Andy

1891

John Collin
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marthea
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Kirkbampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Little Bampton
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England


Registration district: Wigton
Sub-registration district: Wigton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Caruthers 7 visitor
John Collin 46 labourer (this is the age given but they will have transposed the digits)
Marcy Ann Collin 2 gd dau (Marey)
Marthea Collin 67
Richard Studholme 82 relation


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4296; Folio 82; Page 2; GSU roll: 6099406.

Andy

Don't forget to try them with only one 'L' too. Colin, Culen, Colen etc. And remember that they can also be mistranscribed.

Thanks so much!! Any ideas for Johns father James? I only have his name from his sons marriage certificate. I suppose without knowing what his surname was recorded as or his age im a bit stuck.

I now have 4 different spellings of this familys surname, how should I record this? I save all census' and things on my computer but im a bit stumped what to put the name as. :s