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Can anyone tell me if there would be a valid reason for a child born 1894, not being included in the 1901 Census. This person didnt die until 1973.
Thanks Anita
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Ahh..thankk you for that. Is there a way I can check hospitals..records
Anita
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Hi Michael, I dont seem to be able to see his parents. I have previously asked for help on this one but unfortunately no one could find it. Ill leave the details again just incase...fingers crossed. :)
Michael Francis Mullen b1894 Sunderland
Parents - James Mullen (no birth)
Jane (nee Wnnan) no birth either.
I feel that the maiden name of Jane could be an error in the spelling, as I have searched High and low. I do know that Michael had a sibling Mary (no birth date) and possibly Barney (no birth date).
I found Michaels sign up papers for WW1 and I know where he was living in 1915 but I cant find anything on that either.
Regards ANita
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1901 does this one fit in the family?
Name: Barney Mullen
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Hendon St Ignatius the Martyr
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Brewell 19
Edward Brewell 16
Isabella Brewell 53
James Brewell 21
Robert Brewell 16
William Brewell 50
Barney Mullen 20
Can't find a birth to match or on 1891 census
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Thank you that certainly looks as though it could fit.
My Aunt said that she thought Barney was still alive in 1973 as they went to inform him of his brothers death (Michael) so this could be him.
Thank you again or your help
Anita
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Hi Anita
On the 1901 census my aunt Ellen was missing and as she was only 10 years old I didn't think that she could have been in service at such a young age.
It turns out that she was visiting her aunt (her mum's sister), when I saw it on the original census form the penny didn't drop straight away as to whom it was but that was another puzzle solved after wondering where she was for quite some time.
Lancsmade
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I think I might have found something. And you don't want to know how many hours of work I avoided in the process.
Mainly, I was looking for
- mistranscriptions
- previous marriages
- subsequent marriages
e.g. Jane could have married again after 1894, so Michael could have shown up under a completely different surname in 1901; James could have been married before, so his wife would not be Jane in 1881-91.
I ended up just searching for all the James Mul*s in Durham in 1891. I figured Barney should be in the household, regardless of who the wife/mother was.
In 1891:
Name: James Mullin
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Sligo, Ireland
Name: Bernard Mullin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Scotland
-- this would explain why all searches for him pre-1901 as born in Durham didn't work, and why there is nothing in the GRO birth index for your Barney
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Sunderland
Ann Mullin 3
Bernard Mullin 9
James Mullin 33
James Mullin 6
John Mullin 1 6/12
Maria Mullin 4
Mary Mullin 29
William Mullin 8
John H Ward 30
Bernard = Barney
Maria = Mary? (or there could have been a later Mary)
If this is your James, he had a previous wife
Ann born in Gateshead
John born in Newcastle
all other children in Dundee.
Name: Ann Mullen
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Gateshead
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 824
or possibly
Name: Ann Mullen
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Gateshead
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 854
Name: John Mullen
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 15
That is, the family was in Scotland in 1881 and before.
These could be daughter Ann and son John in 1901:
Name: Ann Mullen
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Granddaughter
Name: John Wm Mullen
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Grandson
-- of Barbara, born 1846 Scotland (too young to be James's mother?)
Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
and son James in 1901:
Name: James Mullen
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Scotland
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland Holy Trinity
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
with a Henry Mullen born 1865, Longford, Ireland.
This theory depends on James having remarried to Jane -- is that really what it says for her surname?!?
Or not married. It does seem that at least one parent in the 1891 household has died, as the children appear to have been farmed out among relations.
Absolutely no luck for finding Michael anywhere in 1901 though.
At scotlandspeople .gov.uk there is one Bernard Mullen born in 1882, but not in Dundee. I don't have any credits there at the moment, so can't look at the record.
There are 3 James Mullen + Mary marriages 1878-1882, e.g.
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oops, had to continue in another message.
Hope this is a *close* relation of yours!
This theory may be another off the wall notion, but it would explain the absence of Barney's birth from the GRO. There could be other explanations for that too, like remarriages resulting in him going by the name Mullen even though he wasn't born with it, of course.
This might be a good bet for Barney's marriage:
Name: Bernard Mullen
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1201
- yup, Clara Browell, shown as Brewell in 1901 (checked image), in the household where he was living.
Name: Clara Browell
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 560
If you could track down descendants, you might learn something! Unfortunately, Clara and her sibs don't seem to be in anyone's tree here.
But here you have one child of the marriage:
Name: John E Mullen
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Browell
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1437
Likely others born before mother's surname started being recorded in the index. There are some John Mullens in trees at GR who don't quite match, and there are 4 other Mullens born 1902-1912 in Sunderland. Worth a try (if you don't already know the people)!
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