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CHECKING ON FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Sep 2007 01:36

Re 1841,


Ages are NOT correct ..................... they are rounded to the closest 5 for many but not all adults



Relationships are not indicated



Place of birth is not indicated other than a Y or N in column Born in County.


So ......................


when looking on 1851 or other censuses using information from 1841, always use the following:-


age +/- 10 years

omit relationship

omit county



PLUS it is always a good idea to use the wild card * for names which are not always spelled correctly on any census ....... I've even seen Smith wrong!!


so use Lou* Jon* ........ this will bring up Louise, Louie, Louis, Louisa, and the ever popular mis-spelling Lousia



Sylvia

Clou

Clou Report 15 Sep 2007 23:32

Hi Carrie

Yes sarah did marry a Reuben Jones.

Ok thanks for looking will keep looking thanks

How very puzzling on Andrew though

Clare

Carrie

Carrie Report 15 Sep 2007 23:28

No many clues on the 1851 as you already know, Sarah aged 16 in 1841 I believe married a Reuben Jones and living with or next door to brother William and his wife Mary (Maria)
Can't find Little Andrew, sorry

Clou

Clou Report 15 Sep 2007 23:25

1861 England Census
about Edward Phipps
Name: Edward Phipps
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish: Rowley Regis
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Phipps 11
Edward Phipps 38
Eliza Phipps 38
John Phipps 16
Moses Phipps 6
Oliver Phipps 3 Mo
Richard Phipps 2
Samuel Phipps 7
Sarah Phipps 9
William Phipps 13


on 1851 he was living somewhere else as a lodger cant find it at the mo

Clare

Clou

Clou Report 15 Sep 2007 23:17

Hi to Julie, Jill and Carrie

Ok I had a look before on the 1851 and Andrew wasnt shown i assume he might have died between 1841 to 1851

This family deffo had me puzzled i think due to 1841 being rounded up to the ages

Clare

MellieMob

MellieMob Report 15 Sep 2007 23:17

hi julie after posted i saw that one i mist him first time around gone page blind tonight, lol

thats why i deleted

Clou

Clou Report 15 Sep 2007 23:10

Andrew Phipps 65 thought he was williams father
Andrew Phipps 3
Edward Phipps 15 he is my ancester
Elizbeth Phipps 13
Ellen Phipps 18 un sure too close to Mary's age
John Phipps 7
Martha Phipps 5
Mary Phipps 26
Sarah Phipps 3
Sarah Phipps 16 same regarding the age
Willm Phipps 28

Carrie

Carrie Report 15 Sep 2007 23:10

According to the actual Image Andrew as head, has with him:
Ellen 18
Sarah 16
Edward 15
Elizabeth 13
Andrew 3

Above him are William 28
mary 26
John 7
Martha 5
Sarah 3

William I would take as his Son and the others with Andrew could also be children, the 1851 might enlighten things, also the IGI, I'll take a look for you



Julie

Julie Report 15 Sep 2007 23:07

Mellie

They can't be all their children as Mary would of been 11 when she had Edward

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 15 Sep 2007 23:06

Have you found any of these on 1851 census? That might help you a bit.

Jill

Julie

Julie Report 15 Sep 2007 23:01

From what census is it, if it the 1841 it don't tell you

Clou

Clou Report 15 Sep 2007 22:59

Name: Andrew Phipps
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dudley
Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Dudley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Gough 13
Peter Gough 25
Rosanah Gough 15
Sarah Gough 10
Maryam Langly 30
Ann Okley 12
Betsy Okley 15
James Okley 40
Martha Okley 40
Susanah Okley 18
Andrew Phipps 65
Andrew Phipps 3
Edward Phipps 15
Elizbeth Phipps 13
Ellen Phipps 18
John Phipps 7
Martha Phipps 5
Mary Phipps 26
Sarah Phipps 3
Sarah Phipps 16
Willm Phipps 28
Betsy Prestley 4
Eliza Prestley 2
Hanah Prestley 40
John Prestley 15
Lucy Prestley 20
William Prestley 40
Mary Turner 45
Mary Turner 5
Owen Turner 15
Patrick Turner 45
Patrick Turner 10
Thomas Turner 3

I am unsure who the relationships are..... Theres no wife for Andrew Phipps. Could some of Phipps family be Andrew;s son/daughter and grandchildren?

Can u help as im confused cos of the ages

Many thanks

Clare