Genealogy Chat

Hi Heather

I started out with my GGrandparents (I knew about my family after that) and worked back with census and BDM with certificates to confirm. In tandem I worked forward with their 11 children and recently put the last marriage in place. I worked forward to make contact with living relatives and have made contact through GR or the Internet with 7 of those families! I now have the most wonderful photo of those GGrandparents and have met with some of these relatives. It helps to confirm, or not what you are finding and is incredible way of moving the tree, back and forward. I also now know just how many of this family went all over the world, many to Canada. Still have gaps - in this country, England, funnily enough.

Frances x

Geraldine


Terms and Conditions!

Sylvia

T&C???????

Us in the UK havent yet comformed to using abbrieations like you have in the USA and Canada.

What does T&C mean please?

Geraldine

..and another thing/moan!


Why/how do people work their tree forwards?(I work backwards.....you?)

They must pick a name and place at random ...then try to find living rellies/cousins!???

The mind boggles!!!!


I aint interested in the living....I want to find out all I can about those that were before me!...my Roots/Genes.

Moan over......for now ;-)



Heather



Thats precisley what I mean!...aaaggghhh!

Ive noticed the pming going on to - and I agree - if they just said, Ive pmd you with his date of birth or Ive pmd you with a census image that would settle it but otherwise you sit here thinking "Well, what on earth could they have found that none of us have and which is so sensitive they dont mention it on here"

Christine,

I believe this to be the relevant portion of the T&C, my capitilization of certain words:-

You are licensed to use the Content ONLY FOR PERSONAL OR PROFESSIONAL FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH, and may download Content only as search results RELEVANT to that research. The download of the whole or material parts of any work or database is prohibited. Resale of a work or database or portion thereof, EXCEPT AS SPECIFIC RESULTS RELEVANT to SPECIFIC RESEARCH for an INDIVIDUAL, is prohibited. Online or other republication of Content is prohibited EXCEPT AS UNIQUE DATA ELEMENTS that are part of a UNIQUE family history or genealogy. Violation of this limited use licence may result in immediate termination of your membership and may result in legal action against you. You may use the software provided on the Service only while online and may not download, copy, reuse or distribute that software, except where it is clearly stated in connection with software that it is made available for offline use, and a licence for such use is provided in connection with that software.



As far as I understand, I take extracts from a census or other document, and pass them onto other individuals on here, making changes, such as removing unnecessary parts of the document or adding information from the actual image.



Note that the T&C does indeed contain the word PROFESSIONAL research ....... which means research done for payment!




Sylvia

Julie thank you for explaining what PM means. I'm no longer in the dark.

Sylvia in Canada

It seems reasonable to share info with friends - but it would probably be worth your while to check the T&C on the sites such as Ancestry to make sure that they would agree, and to be aware of the penalties if they don't. That way you'll know what risks you are running.

Christine

It seems that some people don't think they should put information from sites such as ancestry, or even freebmd, on here ............ so they send a pm with the information!!


I figure that if we are using those sites for personal use/research then we can do what we want with it ..................... and helping "friends" comes under that heading as long as we are not receiving payment of any kind. So I believe that it is still ok to c&p the information on, eg a census, on to here.



Sylvia

..and another thing! (still 'ere!)

The MOST annoying thing is.......

A question something like this......

I cant find John. He is my Mothers sisters auntys Uncles Grandfather. He died!
I cant find his birth.


...really really going now.....Zzzzzzzzzz

...And another thing!.........(I havent gone to bed yet lol)

Sometimes I get a PM saying.....

"Thanks for your help but do you know who the father was?".....

who? when? where? This might be 6 months or so after I tried to help them! LOL

...going...going.......GONE! x

Jim in So'ton

You little devil you!..No you diddnt LOL
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Steph

Re....
Are you the phantom thread deleters that seem to be around???

Steph
Theres NO WAY! I could delete a thread I have spent hours researching for someone!

Sometimes when theres no reply on the thread and i have done alot of work on it, I will also copy n paste the answers to a PM myself. When theres no 'thankyou' I must admit i feel mad!
A quick 'Thankyou' doesnt cost much!

Just recently I spent hours! checking through all 4 quarters of about 15 years and found all the children she was looking for with correct MMN....not a flippin word back! Rude or what? Ho hum...

As for PM ing about a possible living rellie....I agree thats the correct thing to do but this isnt what my original moan was about.

I get the same great feeling for solving a problem for someone else as I do in finding one of my own!


......and breathe.....

Dont ya just love this infuriating hobby? LOL

Gerri xx Nighty night everyone x

Hi Gerri,
Just read this message.

Hope you don't think I'm one of the 'whisperers'.
I'm like Claire I've either sent a pm because I think they could be living relations or the thread has just become me and the original poster and the thread is just getting ridiculously long.

I do agree that it would be nice to know what happens. There are some very nice people on here though who do take the time to update the thread or pm you and tell you.

Are you the phantom thread deleters that seem to be around???

oh you **********
lol

gerri

have sent you a pm

yeh after all if they don't want to pay for the subs and we sit there wasting our time..........
lets
and see if they notice ha ha
your so rottern (must be the welsh in us) lol

i never thought of that you know i might go and do that now
or is that just mean?
ha ha he he lol

i had one yesterday found out everythink for her sat through all the pages, page by page 1003 to be exact and i still dont know if they have seen it.
ahhh at everyone who doesn't reply

o.k for living people thats fine, but then put on there i have pm'd you as i think this a living person (i'm not having a go at you ) i am agreeing with you, but again i'm one that if i've spent the best part of the night helpking someone I NEED TO KNOW THE OUT COME.
i think i'm mad lol

Gerri,

I entirely agree: this is a public forum and it is good to follow an open discussion through to the end. Similarly with threads that ask for advice or suggestions I feel that the original poster should tell what in the end they have decided or found out. Even eavesdroppers need closure.