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My G.Grandmother Mary Ann Miller , maiden name Goodwin is entered on the 1901 census for Aberystruth Monmouthshire, as being born in " NC Rowley Church Staffordshire " ? DOB circa 1854. In 1871 she married James Gilson, in 1881 she is living in Aberystruth Monmouthshire . In 1882 she married my G.Grandad Edward John Miller .She had 11 children in all. I,m trying to work backwards with her but have come to a dead halt with the 1861 census . Could someone please have a look for her ???? Thanks Kim

Do you know her parents names?
Gail

There is this one
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1871 Wales Census
about Mary Ann Goodwin
Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Gelligaer
Ecclesiastical parish: St Tyfaelog
Town: Birthdir
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Fletcher 15
Caroline Goodwin 14
Elizabeth Goodwin 36
Elizabeth Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 16
Sarah Goodwin 1
William Goodwin 35
William Goodwin 9

Hi,
Could either of these be her?

Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Langley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Goodwin 4
Elizabeth Goodwin 26
Jane Goodwin 59
Mary Ann Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 19
William Goodwin 26
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Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton

Civil Parish: Penkhull
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Goodwin 26
George Goodwin 40
Martha Goodwin 1
Mary Ann Goodwin 8
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Name: Mary Goodwin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Bentham, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Moddershall
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stone
Sub-registration district: Stone
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
George Goodwin 31
Hannah Goodwin 30
Hannah Goodwin 5
Mary Goodwin 7
Thomas Goodwin 3

Hi,

Sorry didn't read original post properly.
Could she still be living in England in Staffordshire in 1861?
If so then the 3 possibilities above could be her.

All the best
Danielle xx

Newby
Have you actually bought any certificates yet?
The only marriage for 1871 for a James Read Gilson shows the name of Mary Ann Quinton on the same page.
Also 1882 marriage there is an Edward Miller with a Mary Ann Borden and a Mary Ann Summerfield on the same page. Or there is a John Miller in 1882 and a Mary Ann Gilson together.

Where have you got your info from?

Julie

Sorry , have been checking marriage . Have no parents names . Marrage entry 1871 is in Bedwelty Monmouthshire to James Chulson 11a 132 . Children are called Gelson , Jilson and jelson in the census returns ! Gail think you may have the right one going by her marriage in Wales , also , long shot but she called 2 of her children William and Elizabeth . Thanks Danielle will try following your suggestion too. This woman is a nightmare !!! LOL Kim

Julie sorry , keep swapping between Ancestry and here . Haven,t bought any certs yet as need to be absolutely sure . Have sat back an had a think . Her first son David was born in 1873 , Aberystruth Monmouthshire . I,m going to check the marrages again from1870 to 1874 , in England and Wales . If I can find a marrage it might tell me at least in which country she was living in for the 1861 and 71 census . Sorry to be a pain , but it,s really helping to talk through a plan of action with you . Kim

Here is the family from 1871 Wales in 1861

This record has been added to your shoebox.
1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Goodwin
Name: Mary Ann Goodwin
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Langley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Goodwin 4
Elizabeth Goodwin 26
Jane Goodwin 59
Mary Ann Goodwin 6
Mary Ann Goodwin 19
William Goodwin 26

Gail

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EDWARD MILLER Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 1821 Horsham, Sussex, England

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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN
Family
Marriage: 1872 , Sussex, England



No last name on Mary Ann I'm afraid
Gail

Thanks Gail, This must be her . Earliest she could have married is 1870-71 aged 16 ( I hope ) .Widow on 1881 census , last child Gilson born in 1881. Am taking a break for an hour ..... Thanks for all your help everyone .... 11 children in 20 years an no twins !!! LOL ... Kim

I have a Mary Gillson in my family tree but have only got her year of birth and where she was born

B. 1841 in Drighlington

Or there is a John Miller in 1882 and a Mary Ann Gilson together - going on this quote from Julie my Mary would have been 41 when she married, seems abit late for the year but you never know.

If you need more details from my tree let me know and I will endevour to supply

Regards

Sam