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I can’t find 1861 or 1851 Census or Birth for my Gt Grandfather William SMALL. I’ve searched and searched.
Marriage cert says his father is James.
1881 census says born Bucks living in Isleworth
1871 says born Long Crendon, Bucks living in Isleworth
All these would indicate he was born 1847.

I’ve got a birth cert., which I’m sure is wrong one, saying born Haddenham district to James and Maria Jane but they come up on 1881 census with a son William aged 16yrs!

I think Long Crendon probably comes under the Thame district but just can’t find him.

Could anyone help me find him – Please.
Mumsy

Have you seen this one in the 1851

William T Small
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Phebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Lewknor
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Thame
Sub-registration district: Lewknor
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
William T Small 2
John Timms 36
Phebe Timms 25

Hi Julie,
Going by William's marriage in 1869 where his father is still living and no other mention of the "T" would you think it unlikely?
Mumsy.

Heres the marriage for John and Phoebe

Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%)
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Allen James Thame 16 253
Caterer Jane Thame 16 253
Small Phoebe Thame 16 253
Timms John Thame 16 253

Somethink to check out

Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)
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FULLER John Thame 16 219
HAWKES Solomon Thame 16 219
LINNEY Henry Thame 16 219
SHRIMPTON Esther Thame 16 219
SIMMONS Sophia Maria Thame 16 219
>>>SMALL James Thame 16 219
TOWERSEY Mary Thame 16 219
>>>WEBB Phoebe Thame 16 219

Thanks Julie,
I can't quite get my head round how this would fit.
I think it would be unusual for an Ag Lab to divorce in those days. And the Pheobe Small marriage is within 5 yrs of the marriage to James.
Mumsy.

You'd have to look for a death for James in that time frame, it not unusual for people to re marry after the spouse die

When William married in 1869 James was not listed as deceased.

The only births I can find are in the Aylesbury district and I've already got one wrong cert from there. Was Thame a separate district in those days?
Mumsy.

It doesn't always state that they are.

If you don't think the info is correct i can deleted it

Registration was not compulsory untill 1875

I don't think it's him but will keep a note of the details. Many thanks for your help anyway.
Mumsy.