Hi I am going mad trying to find a family in 1891 See below in a minute for details
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Have found family in 1901 but can't find them in 1891 William Picken, Born 1863, Tunstall
1901 95, Nash Peake St, Tunstall, Staffs
William Picken, Hd, M, 38, Iron Worker,born Tunstall Kate Picken, W, M, born Cinderford, Gloucs Martha M Picken, D, 13, born Cinderford, Gloucs Edward M Picken, S, 11, born Brindley Ford, Staffs Francis Picken, S, 9, born Pendleton, Lancs Harold Picken, S, 6, born Warrington, Lancs Horace Picken, S, 1, born Tunstall, Staffs
Hope someone can help, Cheers Clare
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I was wondering if Kate was his 2nd wife, but doesn't look like it.
Marriages Mar 1887 Hyndman Kate Westbury S. 6a 350 Morse Jane Westbury S. 6a 350 Picken William Westbury S. 6a 350 WEBB Richard Westbury S. 6a 350
Cinderford is in Westbury on Severn reg'n district.
Ozi.
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1891: I'm pretty sure this is them.
Name: Kate Picken Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William Gender: Female Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Irlam O Th Height County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 1 Franklin Street
Occupation: Ironworks Roll Turner Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Pendleton ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Picken 28 Kate Picken 20 Alice M Picken 3 Edward M Picken 1
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Thanks Ozi I had got the wrong marriage and didn't realize until you gave me the one above. I had been looking at Staffs BMD and presumed he was married in Stoke area to a Kate - wondered why I couldn't find her before marriage as I was using Kate Hyndman's details !! Found Kate in 1881 and her father was manager of a forge . Perhaps William was down there working and married boss's daughter. Still haven't found them in 1891 though Tried looking for Kate's family in 1891 but they seem to have disappeared too - aargh !
Cheers Clare
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Hi Tom and Ozi Looks like it is them
Many thanks Clare
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No wonder you couldn't find them!
1891: Name: James Hyndman Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Loughor Ecclesiastical parish: St David Town: Loughor County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: Yew Bank Cottage, Dock Street
Occupation: Forge manager (tin) Registration district: Llanelly Sub-registration district: Loughor ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Hyndman 57 Mary A Hyndman 47 - Pontypridd, Glamorgan William Hyndman 20 - (Tin plate) Mill furnace M[an?] George Hyndman 18 - Tinman James Hyndman 16 - (Tin) Mill behinder Emma Hyndman 12 - scholar Thomas Hyndman 10 - scholar Rheola Hyndman 7 - scholar
All kids born Cinderford even though they've been transcribed as Alderford, Glamorgan, & Mary as Portfield, Glamorgan.
Births Sep 1883 Hyndman Reolla Mejorie M Westbury S. 6a 240
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1901: Name: Mary Ann Hyndman Age in 1901: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil parish: Loughor Ecclesiastical parish: Loughor County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: Wain or Waun Rd (?? - difficult to read)
Occupation: none recorded Registration district: Llanelly Sub-registration district: Loughor ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 122 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Hyndman 58 - (wife not widow) Emma Hyndman 22 Rheola Hyndman 17 - pupil teacher
The girls are born Cinderford if you know what you're looking for.
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1901: Name: James Hyndman Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 (lying about his age now?? - unless Joanna filled it in & guessed.) Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: Brierley Hill Ecclesiastical parish: Brierley Hill St Michael Town: Brierly Hill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 49 Lavel Rd
Occupation: Forge & Mill Manager
Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Kingswinford ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76 Household Members: Name Age Joanna Badger 64 Elen Trudgeon 10 James Hyndman 60
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Hi Ozi Just read your PM Thank you so much for the hard work, Cheers Clare
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