Genealogy Chat

Not sure if this is of any help, but here are details of his service carreer with the Royal Engineers. Terry The Honourable Hussey Fane Keane, CB. Regimental Rank: 2nd Lieutenant, 19-3-1839; Lieutenant, 28-6-1842; 2nd Captain, 14-8-1849; Captain, 3-1-1855; Lieutenant Colonel, 26-7-1862; Colonel, 26-6-1872. Army Rank: Major, 2-11-1855; Colonel, 3-8-1866; Major General, 1-11-1877; Lieutenant General, 13-9-1879. War Service: Crimea, 1855-6. Retired on full pay, 13-9-1879. Died at Sunningdale, 26-10-1895.

Another fascinating story, Paul! I've had no luck trying to find either the b*st*rd or his victim. The closest I've come is finding his lawyer's wife, Mary Ann Petersdorff, barrister's wife living in Harley St., Marylebone. I know! 'Fat lot of good that does!' Almost as bad as my attempt to help in the search for another b*st*rd 'Last seen heading west in a boat' Margaret

Sorry Paul - finger trouble :-) But the dates still take the navy guy out of the picture. Terry

...I have had a good look for Welch females, several of the right in Devon about the time our blackguard would have been there, a rich, spoilt military teenage youth , especially around Devonport. Here’s my theory.... He is packed off to soldier as young man, probably Barracks in London before being shipped abroad. Two young loves from the wrong side of each others fence, she moves to the smoke to be with him, after all what was in Devon for a flighty young girl at the time! He comes back from his first engagements having stayed true to his flirty serving girl, finds that she has been putting it about.... very naughty, he applies rule of thumb, smacks her about a bit, pays the price, he lives happily ever after, only £100 light. She then marries into her class, while carrying his baby, all of us plebs pay the price..... sooner or later. Hmmm! Bob

Terence, the court case was 1854!

The court case took place in 1844. As Bob has found out, the naval chappie wasn't promoted to Captain until 1855. So we can safely remove him from Paul's hit list :-) Terry

Heres Hussy in 1841 Name: Huprey Jane Keane Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell Hundred: Roborough County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: St Aubyn Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Huprey Jane Keane 15 View Original Record View original image View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 274; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Stoke Damerell; County: Devon; Enumeration District: Frederick Square Barracks; Folio: 2; Page: 1; Line: 3; GSU roll: 241334.

All I have is the article Angela.

Probably Paul :-) I can't find him on any census except 1891, living in Windsor - his wife isn't with him. I presume he must've been abroad. Do you know the first name of the poor girl (OH has Welches in his tree)? Angela

He was probably only known as Jane at weekends. ;-) If this girl had been co-habiting with him for some time presumably this means that she was 15 or younger when she moved in with him. Grrrr.

...yes I checked the same reference site, popped off without leaving any children. So maybe the career in the Royal Engineers left him firing blanks! ..on the other hand of course if he was a womanising philanderer, he could have planted seed in one of your rellies, that would be something LOL! Bob

Perhaps he had a chip on his shoulder!! :-)))) HUSSEY JANE KEANE Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 14 JUN 1822 Christening: 12 JUL 1822 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN KEANE Family Mother: GRACE Angela

I should think you would want to find him.

Bob's right. It definitely said Army in the article. Anyway, how could anybody with Disney in his name be that bad? I don't think it was Admiral Hon. George Disney Keane (b. 26 Sep 1817, d. 19 Oct 1891) However, his brother is a far more likely candidate: Lt.-Gen. Hon. Hussey Fane Keane (b. 14 Jun 1822, d. 25 Oct 1895) He was in the Royal Engineers. Lt.-Gen. Hon. Hussey Fane Keane was born on 14 June 1822.1 He was the son of Lt.-Gen. Sir John Keane, 1st Baron Keane and Grace Smith.1 He married Lady Isabella Emma Elizabeth FitzMaurice, daughter of Thomas John Hamilton FitzMaurice, 5th Earl of Orkney and Hon. Charlotte Isabella Irby, on 11 January 1886.1 He died on 25 October 1895 at age 73, without issue. Lt.-Gen. Hon. Hussey Fane Keane was invested as a Companion, Order of the Bath (C.B.).

The HF Keane who Gail found would appear to be Hussey Fane Keane. If you google his name, you'll see he was a member of the peerage & married for the first time in 1886, at the age of 64 (?) Seems he was the brother of George above. I don't know how Captain compares with Lt Col in the Army. btw Gail, I read your original post as the Horrible, rather than Honble :-)) Angela

...with second thoughts the original complaint was about an Army Captain, most of these posts are of a decent Navy man. Maybe slighting the wrong fellow here! Bob

...couldn't have been all bad LOL, defended the Country, got very high rank in the Navy. Here is his career... Surname: Keane , First Names : George Disney, CB (Hon) Date promoted : Vice Adm: 21/03/1878 Rear Adm: 30/04/1873 Captain: 09/07/1855 Commander: 09/11/1846 Lieutenant: 26/12/1840 Rank & Seniority on Retired Lists as: Rear Adm: 30/04/1873 Awards and Qualifications: : ; ; Date awarded Good Service Pension : 08/04/1870 ; Date awarded Pension for Wounds : ; Notes: Grecian, 12, Actions Against Ti-ping Rebels at Shanghai - April 1854 Best regards, Bob

There was an H.F. Keane who retired as a Lt. Col. in the army as well

Same man on the 1851 Name: George D Keane Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: France Civil Parish: Westminster St James County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: St James Westminster Sub-registration district: St Jamess Square ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Horwood 31 George D Keane 33 Ake Kennedy 63 Charles A Perris 31 Simpson Ricketts 34 Ann Tagg 65 Ann Tagg 33

Is this him on the 1861? Name: The Honble G D Keane Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Captain Gender: Male Where born: Dieppes, France Civil Parish: Vessels Town: At Sea County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Royal Navy Sub-registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Charybdis Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age H Burbigh 29 Wm H Childers 24 The Honble G D Keane 44 Henry Salmond 21 Love the 'HONOURABLE' part :O( Gail