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Hi trying to locate a marriage between Thirza Spencer(nee Lacey) and George Herrington . Thirza married a John Spencer on nov 8 at the parish church in Eckington Derbyshire. By the 1881 cencus she is no longer living with John but boarding with George Herrington. On the 1901 census Thirza appears as Thurza Herrington and all her children to George appear as Herringtons instead of Spencer so I persume they must of married sometime before 1901 . Also cannot find a death record for Thirza. Any help would be appriated. this is the first time I have ever used this board. so I hope Ive done it right. Thanks Karen

You have not given her birth year or the year of her first marriage. Might help to follow the path. Jim

Are you sure John Spencer died? If not, she can't have married George. Rose

1891 census shows her as Widow and George as Widower

There is a marriage involving George Herrington in dec 1895 quarter in Worksop area (could be right for Eckington). two men and only one lady showing on page .... could Thurza be the missing lady? Jim

1901 for reference: 1901 England Census about Thurza Herrington Name: Thurza Herrington Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chesterfield Ecclesiastical parish: Brampton St Thomas Town: Chesterfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age Annie Herrington 14 George Herrington 70 Lucy Herrington 8 Sam Herrington 15 Thurza Herrington 50 William Herrington 21 Rose

1891: 1891 England Census about Thurza Spencer Name: Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation:House Keeper Gender: Female Where born: Eckington, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Dronfield Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Coal Aston County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Dronfield ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Spencer 4 Fanny Spencer 20 Geo Herrington 60 Mary Herrington 19 Saml Spencer 5 Thurza Spencer 40 Walter Herrington 17 Willm Herrington 11

Says they're both unmarried in 1881? Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thurza SPENCER Head U Female 30 Eckington, Derby, England William SPENCER Son Male 1 Brampton, Derby, England George HERRINGTON Boarder U Male 48 Barlow, Derby, England Hawker Of Pots Hannah HERRINGTON Boarder Female 14 Brampton, Derby, England Hawker Scholar Mary HERRINGTON Boarder Female 10 Brampton, Derby, England Hawker Scholar Walter HERRINGTON Boarder Male 6 Brampton, Derby, England Scholar Rose

The last child was born as Spencer. Births Mar 1893 Spencer Lucy Chesterfield 7b 774 Rose

I think John Spencer's still alive in 1881, 1891 and 1901. He too has a ''housekeeper''. Rose

Jim Thirza was born 29 jan 1853 Eckington Derbydhire father George Lacey mother Fanny Hewitt

That's the one Judith. I seen the ''Housekeeper'' relationship a few times for people who never married because they couldn't. Rose

Hi Portland Rose I have a copy of a birth certificate for annie herrington spencer. Her name is given as annie herrington however fathers name is given as John SPencer which seems unuasul as Thirza was living with George when annie was bornin 1887 fathers occopation is given as pot Hawker which is what George did. forgive me if I take a while to reply I have not used these boards before

thirza marriage to john spencer was nov 8 1868 at the parish chrch eckington

There were other children between Fanny and William: Births Jun 1877 SPENCER Isabella Herrington Chesterfield 7b 715 Deaths Sep 1877 SPENCER Isabella Herington 0 Chesterfield 7b 334 Births Sep 1878 Spencer Alfred Herrington Chesterfield 7b 661 Deaths Dec 1878 SPENCER Alfred Herrington 0 Chesterfield 7b 391 Rose

thanks everyone for the imformation given