Genealogy Chat

There is a boy (John Carr) listed with the Cogdon family as head of household's step-son, who i have taken to be the head's wife's son. However, I'm looking for the wife's maiden name and because I think she already had a son before she married Cogdon I'm not sure whether their marriage cert would be useful...i.e. would it show her previously married name...or her original name (maiden name). If not...where could i find this when I don't know any thing about John? Clare

If she had been previously married it is likely that she remarried in that married name. Hopefully the later certificate should show her father's name, giving you her maiden name. Which census are you referring to? Gwyn

If she told the registrar the full details, all her previous names should be on the marriage cert. Her father's name will be on there (if known) which would confirm her maiden name Reg

You don't give any clues as to when these events occurred..........would they be covered by freebmd? Reg

A Catherine Carr married Charles Heads in June 1890. She was born about 1866. Her son was John Carr born abt. 1886 -- i think. I can't remember where I got this from...a census I think probably 1901 because the last child was born that year. That's all I know. Clare

So where do the Cogdons fit in? Reg

err...i think i made a mistake...I think i meant Heads...his daughter married a Cogdon. Sorry. :D There's too many people...I keep getting confused.

This must be the page of marriage reg'ns.......do you have the cert? Catherine Carr 1890 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland Charles Heads 1890 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland James A Meachen 1890 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland Hannah Maria G Taylor 1890 Apr-May-Jun Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland Reg

1891 census Name: John M Carr Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Newcastle Upon Tyne Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: St Annes Town: Foreign Trade County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John M Carr 5 Catherine Heads 25 Charles Heads 25 Elizabeth Heads 2/12 Reg

No Idon't have it because Iwasn't sure if her maiden name would be on it. But I forgot the bride's father's name is usually on it.

The odds are that the boy was born out of wedlock........you need to look for Catherine in 1881. The marriage cert would be useful, as it would confirm her father's details. Reg

This looks likely to be the boy's birth reg'n........ Name: John Martin Carr Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Newcastle Upon Tyne County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 102 Reg

Yeah I thought that, but I wanted proof instead of going up a completely unrelated branch (like if I followed up Carr when that wasn't her first name). Will have to be her and Charles' marriage cert then. Thanks Reg.

Clare From the IGI.......... CATHERINE CARR Father: WILLIAM CARR Marriages: Spouse: CHARLES HEADS Father: JAMES HEADS Marriage: 30 JUN 1890 All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Husband Age at Marriage: 25 Wife Age at Marriage: 24 Reg

Thanks! I take it John was out of wedlock then :D

Good chance of this being Catherine in 1881...the Parish matches the church in which she married Name: Catherine Carr Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Newcastle On Tyne All Sts County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 100 New Road Provsion Shop Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 17a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Catherine Carr 15 Charles B. Carr George Carr 7 Jane Carr 5 John Carr 9 Mary Carr 38 Mary A. Carr 3 Robert Carr 11 Thomas Carr 17 William Carr 40 William Carr 13 Reg

Thanks again...can't quite belive how much you've found out but there you go! Clare :D