Genealogy Chat

Lisa, thanks so much, I really appreciate that. x

Sorry, don't see them in America. Also tried Rootsweb, GenForum, and in Canada - inGeneas and AutomatedGenealogy.

Romany Have just read your comment which means I think he was transported rather than deported. It is a fact that quite a lot of the people who were transported earned enough money to pay for other family members to join them. There was still gold to be found in Oz but not so easily (if that is the right word). The main gold rush was 1851 and for a short time after that. If he was transported there are ways of tracking them - but ask one of the Oz people because I have never looked that sort of thing up. My people went to New Zealand. Clive

Hi all. I saw the Thomas Brothers death, but I dont think he's mine. I may be wrong, but the Brothers family was an extended one, and I cant see Thomas at all after 1861, and Eliza (his wife) either. His brother (William) was allegedly deported to Oz according to someone on Genes, yet I can see no record of this on Ancestry. He was however, charged with animal killing before that, but wasnt deported. He was given 6 months in gaol with hard labour.

There is this death Thomas Brothers abt 1833 1909 Jul-Aug-Sep Banbury Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire

Do you know where Thomas' brother ended up?

Hi Lisa, thanks. Ive looked on the deaths, in case one died. Also census transcripts even using just their 1st names and places of birth. Thomas' brother was deported, but nothing to say that Thomas was. Also, his wife isnt anywhere to be found.

Hi Romany Have you searched all variations of the name (on Ancestry)? If not, I will continue looking. I've also looked a bit in Canada, but don't see them yet.

Hi, many thanks for your replies. The people concerned are Thomas and Eliza Brothers (nee Wilkins). They wed in 1860, and I have them on the 1861 census in Warwickshire. Then they disappear. Thomas' mother was French, and both their fathers were retired soldiers, so he may have liked the idea of travelling. He was a farm labourer born 1833, they were not rich. That's extremely informative Clive, I hadn't known that.

Clive, if you come back here again, I would be interested in hearing more, please? I knew some of what you wrote, but you know far more than I do. Please feel free to pm me, if you're willing to share your knowledge with me?

If you do not have full ancestry ask on these boards for a search on Canada and America giving as many details as possible. A lot of people went to Canada with the deliberate intention of moving on to America. If after a subsidy you could get one for Canada but not America and the Americans had pushed the price up to discourage the Irish. If paying the fare themselves Canada was much, much cheaper than NZ or OZ. However Canada fare was about £7 - 10 shillings at a time when a labourer was paid about 10 shillings per week. There were assisted passages to Canada by some Canadian provinces but I do not have the details to hand but a big inducement was the gift of land in provinces like Ontario. If you need more pm me. Clive

Can I help you look for them in America?

Thanks Clive. They were a newly wed couple, he was 28.

What about the age of the person concerned? The Poor Law Unions could and did subsidise adults leaving. So if you know the place where they were living and then trace the Poor Law Records but if they were orphaned children do not bother following that route. There are stacks of websites that might help you find children - the surge of sending kids away to 'the colonies' was getting under way. Go to http://www.sweffling.org.uk/genealogy.htm read the intro and then click on children Clive

Thanks Mary. If it was USA, would it be on Ancestry? I cant find any records for the 1860's.

There may not be a record unless they went on a long voyage, e.g. to Australia or America.

where could I find the record? Im not sure which country they went to!