Genealogy Chat

Hi Suzy and Ivy Fox

Was looking through my old threads and i realised i never thanked u Suzy fand Ivy Fox for finding those info.

So many thanks Suzy and Ivy Fox

Clare

Hi to Ivy Fox Many thanks for looking up for me. Thats interesting how the name Charles could of been Odear in the index due to bad handwriting. I will pass all information u all have sent me to my relative and see what she makes of it all. Many thanks for your help Clare

Julia Hawes in 1861 with her husband Oscar Julia M Hawes Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Oscar Gender: Female Where born: Lamberhurst, Kent, England Civil Parish: Frant County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Ticehurst Sub-registration district: Frant ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Alonso A Hawes 6 Julia M Hawes 37 Maria A Hawes 10 Mo Oscar Hawes 47 Oscar Hawes 11 Parcivel Hawes 3 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 573; Folio: 80; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542664.

Looking hopeful - Free BMD have updated the 2b 106 reference and added Rebecca Saker (from the 1851 and 1861 census it seems that Rebecca Laker living in Frant in 1851 might well have married William Braybon and moved to Tunbridge Wells by 1861). So Julia's marriage is more likely to be to Odear and not to William Braybon.

Apologies, Ticehurst is the district, and not necessarily the town where the marriage took place. Perhaps order the certificate for Julia, find out which church etc and then find the original entry?

Is it possible that Charles is 'Odear Hawes'? I've had a look at the scanned image, and this has been placed in the H's, and is correctly transcribed by Free BMD. However, the image is itself of a transcription from the initial registering of the marriage. If the verger etc had appalling handwriting, it is just possible to go from Charles to Odear and from Sales to Hawes. Is there any chance of getting a look at the Ticehurst church/chapel register itself?

Hi Suzy Sorry for the long delay didnt see all messages til now. Marriages Jun 1853 Braybon William Ticehurst 2b 106 Cheesman Julia Maria Ticehurst 2b 106 Hawes Odear Ticehurst 2b 106 I did see this marriage records before but i thought nah not that one but looks like she might have been married once and possbily never married with Charles Sales. Will keep looking Thanks for your messages Clare

This is probably her death record, and the certificate may have further information: Deaths Mar 1910 Sales Julia 77 Greenwich 1d 515 Off to bed now. Insomnia is a wonderful thing!! Suzy

Youngest brother Henry was born after registration began, so his birth certificate will give you more info on Mum and Dad: Birth Sept 1837 CHEESEMAN Henry Hollingbourne 5 175 Suzy

Found this on LDS site: JULIA ANN CHEESEMAN Birth: Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Oxted, Surrey, England Parents: Father: JOHN CHEESEMAN Mother: JANE And a few brothers and sisters: 1. GEORGE CHEESEMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 19 AUG 1827 Oxted, Surrey, England 2. HENRY CHEESEMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 JUL 1837 Oxted, Surrey, England 3. JULIA ANN CHEESEMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Oxted, Surrey, England 4. JAMES CHEESEMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 MAR 1823 Oxted, Surrey, England 5. JANE CHEESEMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 AUG 1830 Oxted, Surrey, England Suzy

I think this is Julia in 1841: Name: Julia Cheeseman Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Female Where born: Surrey, England Civil Parish: Oxted Hundred: Tandridge (First Division) County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Registration district: Godstone Sub-registration district: Godstone Henry Cheeseman 4 James Cheeseman 18 Jane Cheeseman 10 John Cheeseman 43 Joseph Cheeseman 1 Julia Cheeseman 7 June Cheeseman 43 Thos Cheeseman 23 Suzy

She may have been married before: Marriages Jun 1853 Braybon William Ticehurst 2b 106 Cheesman Julia Maria Ticehurst 2b 106 Hawes Odear Ticehurst 2b 106 Ticehurst is in the very near vicinity. I can't however find a subsequent marriage for Julia to Charles. Suzy

This looks like the eldest son's birth record: Births Dec 1858 Sales Joseph Bermondsey 1d 67 His birth certificate might help. Suzy

maybe they didn't marry????????????

Ok thanks for trying, I have done the same but still nothing Thanks again Clare

physically looked through 1951-55 but no charles sales married to julia cheesman

Hi Its supposed to be Cheesman but am unsure. But deffo sure on Charles Sales Thanks Clare

brummie do u know the maiden name

Ok thanks for looking Clarex

1851 possibly her Name: Julia Cheeseman Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Warlingham, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Bletchingley County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Godstone Sub-registration district: Godstone ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 180 so hopefully the marriage should be early 1850's thats if they got married