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Looking for any info on Frederick Browne 1861, hopefully to find first wife, in 1871 he was married to Esther (nee Impett) born 1834 with son Lewis Browne and Eva Impett (Born out of wedlock), both children were born to respective parent's. Frederick was Marshall Chief Constable to the city of London in 1871,he married Esther in 1868 in Blean in Kent, he was about 18 year's older than her. Son Lewis was born Blackheath kent abt 1845. Any help on his Police history or first wife would be very much appreciated, have requested lookup's on record's board without success Shan

Try policeorders(.)co(.)uk, Shan. Do you know, I was having a couple of days break because I was not getting other things done other than being on the boards in the evening!!! However, couldn't resist looking, and saw your postings, so had to tell you about this website. If you go to the gallery of photos in it, you'll see a story about, and photo of my grandad Benjamin Newton. Good luck. Joy

I wrote to the Police in London about my G.G.Grandfather who was a Police Officer in 1836 and they sent me basic details of his service and warrant number, which you need when searching further at Kew. Metropolitan Police Service Wellington House 67-73 Buckingham Gate London SW1E 6BE They were very helpful and if its not the right department they will pass it on Sheila

If you put his name in the policeorders website you will see his warrant no. Joy

Thankyou so much girl's, really do appreciate your help Shan

I think there's some police stuff on the Black Sheep Index good luck XX Dave

See, Shan, you're not blacklisted!! Have you seen my Grandad yet? Joy

Fantastic site I found a group photo of my Grandfathers passing out parade in 1937 - dead chuffed : ) Much happiness Debi

Hi Joy, thank's for giving me that, i registered yesterday after your posting, they mailed me back to say that i would not be able to access the database for at least 24 hour's, still cant get in. now i'm frustrated, thankyou anyway, i'm sure i will get in eventually Shan

Thankyou Joy, Sheila, Dave, And Debi, for your replies much appreciated. Dave looked into black sheep, very interesting, will be going back. Thank's to you all Shan

Oh, Shan, I am so sorry, I forgot about the 24 hour thing. Keep trying. It will be worth it, honest. Joy

Joy, how long did it take before you could get in, i still cant, still have emailed them so maybe i'll hear somthing soon Shan

What a pain, Shan, am so sorry. It was so long ago I subscribed to it, can't remember how long it took. Hope it's not long. Joy

Hi again Joy, still cant get in, now im on my knee's praying, so have emailed them yet again, finger's crossed i will get in soon. Oh by the way, no need to be sorry, not your fault by a long shot, thank's again Shan

Shan, what's his name, please? I want to look for him! Joy

Hi Joy, how very kind, he was Frederick Browne, in 1871 census he was down as Marshall Chief Constable to the city of London born abt 1816 in Peckham. Thankyou so much Shan

Should have looked at your original message, then I'd have seen his name! Sorry. I've had a look and can't see him, but doesn't mean to say he's not there, of course. Could be my brain!!! There are forums and things there, other things to explore, but in the meantime, you might find this interesting, from it:- History Homepage ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1870 The standard height for Metropolitan Police officers is raised to 5ft 8ins, except for Thames Division, where it is 5ft 7ins. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1871 As a result of frequent larcenies of linen, the Commissioner Edmund Henderson said, on the 21 April, "Constables are to call at the houses of all persons on their beats having wet linen in their gardens, and caution them of the risk they run in having them stolen..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1872 Police strike for the first time. Various men are disciplined or dismissed, although these latter are later allowed back in to the Force. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1873 The Metropolitan Police acquire 9 new stations : North Woolwich, Rodney Road (Lock's Fields), Chislehurst, Finchley, Isleworth, Putney, South Norwood, Harrow and Enfield Town. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1874 A survey of recruiting over a 2 year period showed that of those who had joined the force; 31% came from land jobs, 12% from military services, and 5% from other police jobs. The remainder came mostly from manual jobs. The majority of recruits and serving officers came from outside of London. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1875 New police offices at Great Scotland Yard are taken possession of on 4 October 1875 by the Detective and Public Carriage Departments. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1876 8 January the following order was released : "Relief from duty during severe weather - dufing the present severe weather as much indulgence as possible is to be given to the men on night duty, due regard being had to public safety.." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1877 Trial of the Detectives or Turf Fraud Scandal exposes corruption within the Force. The trial taking place at the Old Bailey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1878 Charles Vincent was appointed Director of Criminal Investigations, the reformed Detective Branch which became known as C.I.D. Charles Vincent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1879 Initial rules for dealing with Murder cases, released on 7 June, stated "the body must not be moved, nor anything about it or in the room or place interfered with, and the public must be excluded.." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1880 Formation of the Convict Supervision Office for the assistance and control of convicts discharged upon license. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 Possibly London's most famous police station, Bow Street, was rebuilt in this year. Bow Street Police Station -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1882 The growth of London and the area needing policing is illustrated in Tottenham, (Y Division) when 8 miles of new streets are formed in a year with nearly 4,000 houses on them. The Metropolitan Police at Devonport Dockyard illustrate the diversity of the role of the force as the Police Fire Brigade has its busiest year since formation with 6 major fires. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1883 Special Irish Branch formed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1884 A bomb explodes at Scotland Yard planted by the Fenians. The Special Irish Branch are hit. Damage caused to Scotland Yard and the Rising Sun pub following the Fenian bombing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1885 The strength of the force at this time was 13,319, but statistics show that only 1,383 officers were available for beat duty in the day. The population of London at this time was 5,255,069. Public outrage at the explosions at the Tower of London and Houses of Parliament. Two men are sentenced to penal servitude for life as a result. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1886 Trafalgar Square riot forces resignation of the Commissioner Sir Edmund Henderson. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1887 Major riot in Trafalgar Square, known as 'Bloody Sunday', the first test for the new Commissioner Sir Charles Warren, appointed the previous year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1888 Sir Charles Warren resigns after a dispute with the Home Office, and James Monro is appointed Commissioner in his place. Jack the Ripper murders in the Whitechapel area. James Monro -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1889 The last of the so called "Whitechapel" murders is discovered with the death in Castle Alley on 17 July of Alice McKenzie. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll look again. Joy

Have you got in the site yet, Shan? Joy

Have you got in the site yet, Shan? Joy