Genealogy Chat

On the subject of names, my mother told me her grandmother's name was Mary Ann Wallace but she was married as Mary Ann Bell, her widowed mother having married a Wallace.

Where did you get the name Weller from anyway? Could the mistake lie there? Carole P.S. I live in Dartford, so I know the geography of this area pretty well if you have any questions!

Karen, I was brought up in London mainly Islington thats North of the Thames N.1 very central, for the West End but some of the area used to in Middlesex??? London as Greater London is still expanding outwards seems one day there won't be any of the surrounding Counties left. This is the way I look at the areas. South East London was Kent South West was Surrey North West Middlesex North East Essex Good Luck Karen, Pat x

thanks Pat, I am learning something new everyday. cheers Karen

Karen, I think the only thing left is 1837online, I know it means going through a couple of years but there is nothing coming up on LDS, Ancestry or BMD? Sorry I couldnt help you. Pat x

Karen Bexley is found in the district of Dartford, thats why I think this is your man. I know this isnt solving the marriage question but I was trying to get a birth detail confirmed first, then maybe you can for marriage dates and spouse, Its not your fault with the Geography, with london expanding out to the Home Counties all the time it gets difficult to check the geography from that time. By the way its worse where my people come from as those areas changed Counties Completely, one minute your checking Shropshire, then Staffordshire and Worcestershire and even Warwickshire. You are not alone. Pat x

I just looked up DArtford & it is close to Bexley Heath. There is a Sarah Weller born in Lambeth. I just realise how close LOndon is. I really need some geography lessons. Karen

Karen, There is this: Name: Martin, Job Quarter: March Year: 1873 District: Dartford County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 378 (click to see others on page) And this: Name: MARTIN, Charles Job Quarter: December Year: 1875 District: Lambeth County: Greater London London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 670 (click to see others on page) There the only two in that area for those years, could one of these be Job? Pat x From Ancestry

Don't have any details of the marriage except they were married by the 1901 census. My grandma was born in 1903.

well..... On the 1901 census.......it says he was born ay Bexley heath & his age was 30. Sarah Anne was 29. They were living in St Mary Cray & he was a milkman. That would make his DOB 1871. On the 1881 census he was 8 which make his DOB 1873. That also said he was born Bexley Heath. Any ideas?? Haven't found much on Sarah Weller.Maybe I will adopt Sarah Berry ! Karen

Jim, Thats the other name that came up on Ancestry. Karen any idea what year Job Martin was born? Pat x

Karen, Just been on the LDS and there is a submitters name for the birth in Bexley, Kent JOB LOUIS MARTIN 1880 Compact Disc #58 Pin #638348 Marriages Spouse: Sarah Anne Berry Disc #58 Pin #628229 Marriage: Place: Woolwich, London, Middlesex, En Submitter: Glen E. CARTER 409-2797 Battleford Road Mississauga, ON L5N 2W2 Submission Search: 436124-0608102222206 URL: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=genesearcher&id=I1 CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #58 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS There is also this: Job Louis Martin Compact Disc #11 Pin #46607 Sex: M -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 1880 Place: Bexleyheath,Kent,England Death: bet 1914 and 1971 Place: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s): Spouse: Sarah Anne Berry Disc #11 Pin #46608 Marriage: bet 1911 and 1946 Place: Woolwich,London,England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes and Sources: Notes: None Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submitter: Phyllis Ann Stevenson DAVIS 1323 Brampton Rd Los Angeles, Ca 90041 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submission Search: 132566-0314100153325 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #11 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS I don't know if any of this can help if you could contact the submitters? Funny neither of these submitters have a marriage date. I would be tempted to believe they are the same people, but maybe thats just because they are the only ones showing up, do you know for certain when Job married? Pat x

I looked at the original indexes, you have to look at each name. They are typed, and it is definitely Sarah Anne Berry. Carole

Darn. I think it's the wrong Job Martin I just found this one on Family search & it also has him marrying Sarah Anne Berry & he is too young. AGHHHHHHHHHH. thanks anyway.. so close & yet........ Karen

St Mary Cray is just the other side of Bexley, so that's not far away either. Have you looked at the image of the index? It might be available on FreeBMD. It isn't the actual certificate, but its worth a try, just in case the index has been mistranscribed onto FreeBMD. Carole

thanks Pat, would you mind doing that.I am going craaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy ! thanks Karen

Karen Same on Ancestry (thats where BMD get their info) BERRY, Sarah Ann 1898 December Woolwich Greater London Kent London 1d 2290 Galloway, Frances 1898 December Woolwich Greater London Kent London 1d 2290 MARTIN, Job Lewis 1898 December Woolwich Greater London Kent London 1d 2290 MERRYMAN, James 1898 December Woolwich Greater London Kent London 1d 22290 Suppose LDS wouldnt have anything? Pat x

Karen Woolwich would be near Bexley, don't know St. Mary Cray? Abut thats a strange mistransciption if it is, those names are so different. Have you checked is there anything on Ancestry? I can check for you if you would like? Pat x

HI I am going mad trying to find details for my Martin & Weller family. Job Martin married Sarah Anne Weller in Kent, but the closest match I can find on free BMD is for Job MArtin marrying Sarah Anne Berry, in Woolwich. What do you think?? Also, is Woolwich anywhere near Bexley or St Mary Cray??? I know......I'm desperate. Thanks Karen