Genealogy Chat

there's still a good chance that when he died his wife had a gravestone made that said something like "in memory of William Poole beloved husband of Henrietta Poole". Also widows often liked to have their husbands buried somewhere convenient for visiting. They were relatively young, and she didn't know then that she was going to remarry could there have been any need for letters of administration? The advantage of the probate indexes is that they're national and complete and you're looking for the address they lived at, not the address where the death occurred

Hi Robin, thank you for the Idea but his wife remarried in 1893 so it will not help me. just do not know what else I can do. i am so sad that i can find nothing. Margaret

do you know when his wife died and where she's buried? Since you don't know the age or the district, there are too many candidates in the records, and you might be no further forward if you had all of their death certs. But if you could find his grave, there might be something to identify it as the right one. Best clue would be if his wife is in the same grave

Hi Margaret If he died in hospital it could have the hospital on as the address, as my grandmothers death certificate did. You would have to hope that the informant was his wife or a relative you know about to check if it was the right one. Don't know how you could do this unless you were certain of the district the death was recorded in. Then you could phone the register office and ask them to check the details of the informant before they issue the certificate. Don't think this helps much. Kath

Hi Brenda I have looked on the 1881 census for other william Poole they seem to be there I really can't go by his age as on the 1881 census he is 44 but this can't be right I don't think as he married in 1871 and on his marraige certificate it says he was 24 which would only make him 34 in the 1881 census. I also know he had died by the 1891 census. thank you Margaret

Margaret, all three Williams should be on the 1881 census. Have a look to see what you can find. One should be on the 1891. Again, look to see if you can find him. What you discover may help to narrow the field. Brenda

Hi Kathleen thank you for that I have seen these before but do not know if any of them are the ones I am looking for how could I order them and be sure one is mine I do realize he could have died in hospital or something, would the death certificate have his usual address on it and maybe it was not his wife that registered the death, also I have phoned the local cemeterys in the area he lived and they have not got a record of his burial thank you Margaret

Do you know that William was the father of the 1889 baby? In 1881, my great grandmother is shown as a widow with a young baby born that year suggesting her husband had recently died. However- I already had his death certificate dated 1876 so one never knows what might be found out. Perhaps it is possible to find the church which would have served that address and then check parish registers for a burial, and baby's baptism.

On Ancestry there are three deaths for a William Poole in the Middlesex area in the relevant time as follows: June qtr. 1890, St. Giles, 1b, page 372. Age 50 Sept. qtr, 1890, Staines, 3a, page 7, Age 56 June qtr. 1891, London City, 1c, page 9, Age 58 Kath

Hi Cazza, yes I have been told you could not bury someone without a death certificate but I have tried and tried for this death certificate even the local office done a search for me but nothing I know he could have died out of the country but I really don't think so as he had one child of between months and 2 years old and one of 7-9 years old. and was working at home when the younger one was born and think his age would have been against him for being out of the country think you could have died in a hospital somewhere thankyou Margaret

Hi Margaret, I think I'm right in saying that a burial couldn't be performed without a death certificate. It's also possible that he died out of the country. Best of luck, Cazza

Hi Helen yes I have looked at all other spellings but still can't find it thank you Margaret

Margaret Have you thought the death might have been misrecorded as (eg) Paul, or Pool, or Powell? nell

Hi Carol thank you his namw was William Poole no middle name as far as I know in the 1881 census he was living in Edmonton Middlesex his wife a widow in 1891 census but was still living at the same address Cuba Cottages Edmonton I can't say for sure how old he was because nothing I have got on him agrees an age they had a baby in 1889 so I suppose he died between 1888 and 1891 thank you Margaret

Give me the name and an approximate date and place, and I will have a look on the NBI for you.

Thank you Carol only I can't find the death certificate of the person I am looking for but thought I might be able to find a burial record, I have been looking for nearly 3 years but no luck Margaret

A transcription of the National Burial Index is on 4 cds, but to be certain the information is correct you need to see the original entry. These can usually be found at the records office in the area of death. A death certificate, which will be available after September 1837 will give more information than the burial record, as the burial does not always give date of death, only the date of the burial. The certificate will also tell you who the informant was, and as they were usually a relative, this can sometimes be of help.

Hi Could someone please tell me if finding a death certificate is the same as a NBI record and where can you see the NBI records thanking you Margaret