Genealogy Chat

Sarah and Kate Wow, consider yourself 'cyber hugged'. Would never have thought of that - thanks sooooo much!!!! Roll on the 1911 census eh!!!! - when it does come out, if Esther is not Esther or Sarah its me who will be so mad I will scrreeeeammmm! lol

Oooh Kate, That's the smart answer! I bet that is what happened!!! I have two census pages like that - one where my ancestor George is written as Charles like the head of the previous household and they are both the same age and marital status. The other one the enumerator gets to the last large household that he can fit on his page and promptly misses out the wife's place of birth, so all the places of birth shift up a line and the last child was born nowhere! Took me ages before I realised what had happened! Sarah

Just to add my twopennorth... if you look at all the ticks in the last column on that page of the 1901, you will see that they all correspond to people who were born 'out of county'. Somebody must have had to count the out-of-county ones and just used that column as a convenient place to tick them off. I'm pretty sure it does say 'Mid' for 'Middlesex, rather than 'Mad', and I think it must be that they had to count her as born out of county because Acton came under Middlesex rather than London. (In the 'browse census' section Acto9n is listed under Middlesex). All the ones without ticks were born in Lambeth, Stepney or Southwark. As for the name 'Esther', it could possibly be that the enumerator copied it from the Pike family 2 households previously because her age was the same. Kate.

Hi, sorry for delay in replying, pc crashed and I havent been able to get online for ages! If they are close together maybe it IS the same person and as Sarah suggested didn't like the name!!!! aaarrrrrggghhhh!

Hello, Acton,Shepherds Bush and Notting Hill are all close by. Maureen

Thanks for the help everyone. Sarah, I have one birth certificate and it says Sarah and gives her 'mark'!!!! Maybe I need to try and track down if Esther really does exist or not!!!! Cheers!

maybe when you are feeling rich, you will need to get a couple of the birth certs, just to verify they DO all have the same mother?? My hubby's rellie always had a wife called Ann, but they were not all the same woman!! Sarah

1871 census - William's occupation looks like lath renderer? Didn't like the name Sarah? Well if it is the right one she got stuck with it - my Dad always remembers her being shouted at by his Grandad as 'Sarrrrrrr' when he wanted her lol - or maybe short for 'sargent major' lol Gotta go offline now or dogs will rip their leads to shreds waiting for walkies!!!!

It is possible that she just didn't like the name Sarah (like I don't lol)?? Who out there knows if Acton and Notting Hill are one and the same, almost?? I'm not good on these London Boroughs! Sarah

This is the 1871: Elisa James abt 1848 Lambeth, Middlesex, England Wife Hammersmith London Sarah James abt 1870 Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Daughter Hammersmith London William James abt 1847 L Rincras, Middlesex, England Head Hammersmith London William James abt 1871 Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Son Hammersmith London Could someone else try and read William James' occupation?? It's something ''sender'' (laundry??? lol??) Notting Hill like 1891. Sarah

Sarah, am certain that is her on the 1891 census. Reason there is no hubby is that he was in the Barracks! got him on census although it does state he was single (mind you all the other guy's in the barracks are down as single too!!!)

This is the 1891 census. Do you think this is Sarah Davie? Davie, Sarah abt 1870 Notting Hill, London, England Head Cheriton Kent She is married, but no hubby. She is an ironer (similar to dad!!) Sarah

In the 'deaf dumb' bit I can see 3 ticks, one on the row where George's name is and the 2 rows below it, the second tick is in the row where Esther is and there is some writing - maybe not mid for middlesex but mad for MAD???!!!! lol Correct spelling is George Davie and Sarah James.

Was looking to see what 1891 says- What is the correct surname please Davie or Davies

all i can see in the last column is an emnnumerators mark. (Says she was born Acton cant see where it says middlesex)

lol you too quick for me!

The bit in the margin is ''Mid'' for Middlesex. Didn't read the rest, so going back to your message now!! Sarah

Wondering if anyone can help Firstly: I have a marriage certificate for my great great grandfather: George Davie born 1866, Lincoln - George was a soldier with the Lincoln Regiment, aged 23 when he married Sarah James on 25th December 1889! At the time of their marriage they lived in Cheridon, Kent. Sarah James was 20 years old on the marriage certificate. Father's names were Richard Davies, Groom and William James, Laundryman. I have found them on the 1901 census - BUT the wife's name is Esther and not Sarah! All the children plus George match up to what my Dad remembers as his cousins but he remembers his Grandmother as Sarah not Esther - as far as he is aware Sarah did not 'die' or 'divorce'. Maybe I have been looking at it too much and am confused!! Next to Esther's birthplace on the census - the bit where the 'deaf and dumb' bit is - there is something written in the margin which I can't make out. Any ideas anyone please? The census page is: RG 13/407 page 20. Any help would be appreciated! Am offline for a while but will be straining my brain in the meantime! Cheers!

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