Genealogy Chat

I am doing some transcribing.1670 + this is written in Latin.Keep coming up with what looks like Gulielmi or Gulislmi or Gulielmne It is a man name.Any one got any ideas very welcome Thank you Daphne

forerunner to William i would say (but that is a guess)

Gulielmus is Latin for William. nell

Having said that, I recently read about someone called Guliemma, who was a girl, but I think this is a very unusual name. You aren't by any chance the Daphne Secker with a sister called Claire who lived in Sanderstead, are you? nell

hi daphne not another william i have just read your thread hope its not another wells love eileen

Thank you !!! makes sence, as no Williams in the Latin.This retor did all 1650-1660 in English then Latin 1660 1670 then back to English.Funny man. Sorry no sister.And I am in Norfolk Thank you Daphne

Don't know if this helps but Guillaume is French for William. Cheryl

Gulielmus = William in Latin Gulielmi is the ????possessive????tense (millions of years since I did latin at school) meaning William, son of. So, are you having fun? How have you translated Jacobus? And Maria? Johannes? etc etc. Olde Crone

My 6th GGdad Billy Freeman was recorded as having been baptised Guilielmus. Early 1700s. That was the time of the Restoration. If a Catholic King was on the Throne at the time that would explain it.

In 1714 King George 1 was Throned, apparently to maintain a Protestant succession. So maybe the names were Latinised by some Churches with a Catholic leaning as an act of Civil Disobedience against our new German Rulers, the House of Hanover.

Back now just been to help MIL 90 for her weekly bath. Olde Crone You are so right I have found Maria ,Johannes and Jacobus.I thought Johannes was Johnathan?It too is a boys name.Is there any where I can see these names please? Do not know why the same rector went back to Latin of 10 years.Also found Jana . thank you all for your help. Daphne

Hundreds of Latin names here- http://freereg.rootsweb.*com/howto/latinnames.htm (remove *) NB: Jacobus is James, not Jacob.

Thank you Geoff.Just found it from a search.And have printed names.Well away now .Johnannes I see is John thank you all for your help Daphne

Most PRs were written in Latin, because that is how the Priests were taught to do it, Latin being the language of the educated. During the Restoration (1600s) it was forbidden to keep Church Registers, so Clerics who had been quite lax until then, determinedly wrote everything up, and hid it. After Oliver Cromwell died, it was ok to keep the registers again and entries were made from the 'secret' registers - sometimes a bit of guesswork went into this! The Church was, and still is, slow to change, so registers continued to be written in Latin for very many years in some places. Jacobus = James Johannes = John (abbrev. to Jno Johnathan = Jono Jana = Jane Janetta = Janet Maria = Mary and then the very tricky: Radolphus = Ralph RaNdolphus = Randolph. And don't forget - most Parish priests only knew dog latin and may have invented a few latinised versions of English names! Olde Crone

My old grandad Guiseppe Alfonso Pepini Croci Allways used to call me Gulielmo.O for a male A for a female another instance was Roberta female Roberto male .I dont know of many fornames ending with an I But many surnames did

Hi I would guess that Guliemma would be a latinised verson of Wilhelmina - a feminine version of William. Latinised names ending with an I, as Olde Crone said above, will usually be possessive so they'll probably be prefixed by 'filius' (son), say, so you'd get 'filus Gulielmi' meaning 'son of William'. Christine

Thank you all I now have names from the site printed.Now makes sence.Wondered where my Williams & Johns went. It is in Latin from 1500s then English back to Latin and back to English.Must be when you said,he went back to Latin .You should see what he as written for Humphrey.And Titus is Titi in the Latin. With the names etc can now start at the 1500. It takes some getting used to the writting.He writes SuSan.His S are all S .Takes time working out the writting but very rewarding when you can.Sad with some of the families.Dying in child birth and babies.I feel I am getting to know them. Daphne

I once had the privilege of reading through the original parish registers of Fincham in Norfolk. I recall those switches between English and Latin, and remember feeling how much more it brought alive the history of the time when you can see, so plainly, the impact on record-keeping. The other thing was how different the letters could be from modern script. Lower-case Es looked more like Os, for instance and there were other letters which I began to recognise only from their context - they just had to be... whatever letter. Christine

And let's not forget the fs. Massey would be written as Mafsey or even Maffey.

Yes, the double-S was the original of the German ß - a long letter like f followed by s. And then a capital F was sometimes wrtten ff - hence names like Ffoulkes (where they ended up with both fs, but one in upper case after all!). Christine