Genealogy Chat

A big thank you to every body who contributed to my request for help on the Staffordshire Cesus it was very much appreciated. Kind regards, Christopher.

Jan, - you´re not butting in - by all means another pair of eyes might help. Agreed - Sarah on 1871 is granddaughter, and therefore I think she may be illegitmate daughter of Louisa, or daughter from a previous marriage. It is possible that she is the same person as the Sarah Bevins listed on the 1881 census .- with an incorrect or different year of birth. Problem is I cannot find any Wilson / Bevins / Wilks marriages. The only Wilkes marriage I found was the 1874 one to a Louisa Sidney !! - which doesn´t help at the moment

Elaine that 1841 news is brilliant. You have certainly placed a few more names in the pot for the Wilson family. Some which look as though they possibly died in infancy. The plot thickens. Regards Christopher

This could be your Wilson family on 1841 William Wilson 45 Ag lab Charlotte 40 William 20 Bit plater Mary 23 George 21 Awl Blade maker Ann 13 Charles 6 John 4 Elizabeth 8 months Census 1841 TNA Ref HO107-0983 Image No 270 Folio No 7\24 Page No 3 Entry No 14 Location details County STAFFORDSHIRE Superintendent Registrar's District WALSALL Registrar's District BLOXWICH Enumeration District No 2 Parish WALSALL City WALSALL Township THE FOREIGN OF WALSALL Place ELMORE GREEN Household Number 1751 Record details First name CHARLOTTE Last name WILSON Title Misc Age 40 Sex F Birth County STAFFORDSHIRE

Re 1861 census Head is named as Wm Wilson Sen - the rest are just listed underneath with their first name and Do (for ditto) Obviousyly the 'ditto' has been transcribed as Sen, rather than Wilson!!

Elaine that 1871 entry does look strange. Does it say ‘Sen’ against all the names on the original census? As for the marriage I might have to trawl through the marriages for a set period. I will have a look on Free BMD first. Regards Christopher

and where does the name Sarah Bevins come in to it !!

problem is - I still cannot find a marriage for Louisa - that´s why I was working backwards looking for a possible different surname - unsuccessfully !!

have you seen this strange mistransciption of Louisa in 1871 Charlotte Sen abt 1795 Brownhills, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Henry Sen abt 1825 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire John Sen abt 1837 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Louisa Sen abt 1840 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Sarah Ann Sen abt 1860 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire W Wilson Sen abt 1791 Burley Dam, Cheshire, England Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire The head of household is listed as Wm Wilson Sen (presumably short for senior) and the family have then been listed with the surname Sen !!

Elaine you have connected with Louisa Ok. And it looks like Richard Wilks and Louisa married around 1871 based on Omiah Wilks been born in 1873. Great work, Regards Christopher

Louisa in 1851- Charlotte Willson abt 1796 Brown Hill, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Louisa Willson abt 1842 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Mary Willson abt 1819 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Willm Willson abt 1792 Burlaydan, Cheshire, England Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire

Alice you’re onto the Wright family with the Wilson connection. As you can see it looks like Louise had an illegitimate daughter, so the connection looks ok. Regards Christopher

Is this Louisa on 1871 census with family Charlotte Wilson abt 1795 Brownhill, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Staffordshire Henery Wilson abt 1826 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire John Wilson abt 1838 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Louisa Wilson abt 1842 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire Sarah Wilson abt 1859 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire -- if so where is the Sarah Bevins born 1866 Bloxwich, who is listed as Louisa¨s daughter on 1881 census ??

I found this marriage on free BMD Marriages Sep 1874 Bickford Sarah Penkridge 6b 610 Phillips Henry Fitzherbert Penkridge 6b 610 Sidney Louisa Catherine Penkridge 6b 610 Wilkes Richard Hammond Penkridge 6b 610 .... at the moment cannot see a connection other than the name Richard HAMMOND Wilkes - same as the child born 1879. Might be worth keeping to see if there is a connection - was Louisa previously Louisa Sidney ??

Thank you Alice for the information on Richards Birthday details. On the marriage detail I do not have any information at all. I do know that Louisa family were called Wilson and her parents were Henry and Charlotte Wilson. And all the details of that family are based around Bloxwich. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Christopher

any idea when they married please,or where

not what you want but...probably Richards birth reg Name: Wilkes, Richard Hammond S Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1879 District: Cannock County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 456

re-posted for clariy Staffordshire look up in census earlier than 1881 please. Information on the family pre 1881 required. Especially about Richard Wilks c1837 born in Wales. What I would like to know is at what time Richard moved into the Staffordshire area if possible. Kind regards Christopher 1881 Staffordshire Census: Living at Station Road Cannock Staffs Richard Wilks abt 1837 Wales Head Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Louisa Wilks abt 1841 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Wife Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Sarah Bevins abt 1866 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter of Wife Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Omiah Wilks abt 1873 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, Englan James Wilks abt 1875 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Thomas Wilks abt 1877 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Richard Wilks abt 1880 Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Source information: RG11/2784 Registration district: Cannock Sub-registration district: Cannock ED , institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 102 Page: 19 Richard was a Coal Miner

Staffordshire look up in census earlier than 1881 please. Information on the family pre 1881 required. Especially about Richard Wilks c1837 born in Wales. What I would like to know is at what time Richard moved into the Staffordshire area if possible. Kind regards Christopher 1881 Staffordshire Census: Living at Station Road Cannock Staffs Richard Wilks abt 1837 Wales Head Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Louisa Wilks abt 1841 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Wife Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Sarah Bevins abt 1866 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter of Wife Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Omiah Wilks abt 1873 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, Englan James Wilks abt 1875 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Thomas Wilks abt 1877 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Richard Wilks abt 1880 Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Son Station Rd, Cannock, Staffordshire, England Source information: RG11/2784 Registration district: Cannock Sub-registration district: Cannock ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 102 Page: 19 Richard was a Coal Miner