Genealogy Chat

Merry Stanley died in Shildon, Co Durham. The year is bet 1983-1989. Need to see if mam will discuss it I can't remember would have been in primary school then!

I just mean on a cert - not the definition of the words. ''Formerly'' is the word used to describe the maiden surname......if the woman has been married before, then any previous married surname will be described as ''late''. Well, That's how it is on every cert I have!! But I can't pretend I've read anything about it :o(( Merry

Pippa thanks but not sure what I can take from that with not knowing that area! Why would they reg in another area? Reg district states DERBY sub dist DERBY NORTH WEST in the COUNTY BOR. OF DERBY. Women's hospital v.d. she was born in, and address was given as RIPLEY v.d. Marriage was proabably a lie by the looks of things. Just hope her name was the truth at least!

Might be prepared to argue 'formerly' and 'Nee' as being one and the same, Merry-i dont agree!! jess x

Is it possible to be more accurate about Stanley Armstrong's death?? if he died after 1983 then his death may be easily traceable on Ancestry (and his death reg should give his date of birth which would help with going back on his side). If you know where he died too, that would help! Merry

Formerly means the same thing as nee....so she is saying her maiden surname is Reid. Merry

You can register a birth at a different register office from the district that the birth took place by declaration. Example: My Dad's wife had a daughter born in Nottingham but went to Ilkeston Register Office to register the birth by declaration but the birth is registered and is shown as such in Nottingham Registration District. Hope that helps a little

No idea regarding Joyce's age! The birth cert says: Father reg birth, Joyce Armstrong formerley Reid no Nee or any other names. She was born Women's Hospital. Stanley address given as '93 Nuttalls Park Ripley as per declaration dated 17th October 1947'. Mum was born 15th and reg the 20th so what declaration will it be that was dated the 17th? looked on other certs and they don't have this written in the sig. descrip & residence of informant box! Thanks to you all! I am currently using that ancestry site you mention tried with Stanley - no look. Now trying Joyce! ANYMORE TIPS?

You can search for a marriage here. Start in 1947 and work back. http://www.ancestry.*co.uk/search/rectype/vital/freebmd/bmd.aspx (remove * )

does it give a nee name as well or just 'formerly'?

It's possible that Joyce & Stanley weren't married, but just pretended, so there won't be a marriage record. I think this is going to be tough to sort out. Any idea how old Joyce was when she had your Mum? nell

My mum was born Derby 3a in 1947. Her father Stanley Armstrong birth cert states mother as Joyce Armstrong formerley REID. My mum never knew Joyce as she left her when she was a few weeks old? Her father brought her up alone. He died in the 1980's . He was aparantly born in Chilton Durham. I don't like to ask mam too many questions regarding her side of the family as this upsets her although she is interested in the research I have done on my late father's side back to 1605. She was told as a teen that Joyce was in prison for bigamy? Remarried and has another family. All the gossip you can think of. I can't locate a marriage of Joyce and Stanley. Where do I start?! It's probably obvious but touchy subject etc what's the best way to go? THIS IS NOT TO REUNITE! This is family HISTORY only.