Genealogy Chat

Hi Linda, It is possible to have 2 daughters named Mary, when trying to find my Father-in-law's mother on the BMD, we found that she was registered as Mary Winifrid and her sister as Mary Gertrude! Neither was known as Mary, I think that it might be a Catholic thing. Lynn : )

Margaret the first wife died... Deaths Jun 1874 TRANTER Margaret Ann 32 Stoke T. 6b 108 and John remarried... Marriages Dec 1876 Broomfield Mary Ann Stoke T. 6b 351 DAVIES John Stoke On Trent 6b 351 Hocknell Eliza Stoke T 6b 351 TRANTER John Stoke T. 6b 351 Georgina.

This looks like the family in 1881 but the mother is now Mary Ann instead of Margaret & there is a step-daughter Sarah, What do you think? Sarah Broomfield abt 1869 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Step Daughter Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire Ellen Jane Tranter abt 1870 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire George William Tranter abt 1862 Madeley, Shropshire, England Son Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire John Tranter abt 1842 Madeley, Shropshire, England Head Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire John Henry Tranter abt 1866 Madeley, Shropshire, England Son Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire Mary Ann Tranter abt 1842 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Wife Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire Thomas Edward Tranter abt 1872 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke Upon Trent Staffordshire Source information: RG12/2717 Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 45 Page: 35 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341651 Georgina.

Linda I am trying to follow this family through the census's. I was thinking she lied about her age because she was under 21 when she married so a birth about 1868 could be possible. I am wondering if the registrar asked about her father and she said he was dead so they just put a line through where his name should be, or she said she was Illigitimate,maybe her father didn't approve of the marriage? Georgina.

thanks Georgina I looked at that, but it's always nice when someone else comes up with the same as you, I'm a bit confused as to why they would name 2 daughters Mary! I'm now thinking that may be mine and that she would have been 18 at marriage maybe no parental consent (was it needed in 1886) and so she left her father blank? Have found a birth for Mary Tranter jan q 1868 which would tie in with that census

Have you seen this entry on the 1871 census.. If it's her she has a father. Geo Willm Tranter abt 1862 Madley, Shropshire, England Son Hanley Staffordshire Helen Jane Tranter abt 1870 Madley, Shropshire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire John Tranter abt 1842 Madley, Shropshire, England Head Hanley Staffordshire John Hent Tranter abt 1866 Madley, Shropshire, England Son Hanley Staffordshire Margaret A Tranter abt 1843 Madley, Shropshire, England Wife Hanley Staffordshire Mary Ann Tranter abt 1868 Madley, Shropshire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire Mary Jane Tranter abt 1864 Madley, Shropshire, England Daughter Hanley Staffordshire Source information: RG10/2855 Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 54 Page: 45 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 209 GSU Number: 836381 Georgina.

nice to know I am not alone :) son asleep now so I can concentrate lol

Linda are you sure this is her on the 1891 census? if she married John LLoyd in 1886 wouldn't her surname be LLoyd in 1891? or do you mean that is the 1881 census. Sorry misread your message. My turn for a blond moment. Georgina.

sorry being blonde today 1891 census says she was born in Madeley shrops have found one in shrops 1881 but shes the niece Sarah A. Hinsley abt 1840 Madeley, Shropshire, England Wife Madeley Shropshire Thomas Hinsley abt 1846 Madeley, Shropshire, England Head Madeley Shropshire >> Mary A. Tranter abt 1868 Madeley, Shropshire, England Niece Madeley Shropshire so still no parents

sorry been away from computer standing over plumbers shoulder while he fixes my boiler for the 4th time in 2 weeks!!! Mary Tranter married John Lloyd 18th July 1886 Johns Father William Lloyd miner Mary's father jusr has line through

Have you found her in the census before and after her marriage. Perhaps that will give you a clue. Irene

Linda have you found her on any census? Who did she marry? Georgina.

I'm not sure where she was born, have a couple of possibilities Marriage cert is 1886 says she is 20 Name: Mary Tranter Year of Registration: 1866 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 508 Name: Mary Tranter Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Walsall County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 536 (click to see others on Thats assuming she was born locally

Linda have you found her birth? Georgina.

following the luck I have been having lately the witnesses are SMITHS! no idea who they could be

What about the witnesses could they be family members. Good Luck Irene

thanks both Am a bit disappointed as was hoping her fathers name would be able to take me a bit further back, am doing ok on the grooms side but stuck her side

I surpose he could have died when she was a child and she did not know his name to give to the vicar. My father's Dad died when he was a young child and I noticed on his younger brother's(my uncle) marriage certificate that he gave the wrong name for his father on his marriage certificate. His mother had remarried so perhaps his real father was not talked about. Irene

Linda she probably was illigitimate but to be sure I would get her birth cert. Georgina.

Have jusr recieved a marriage cert, for brides father there is just a line, so assume she was illegitimate?