Genealogy Chat

I've found Thomas Hallam, age 22, listed on the 1851 census on H0107/2128 folio 319 page 6, as an inmate. Occupation framework knitter. I did wonder about him being in a workhouse but there only seem to be 6 people listed n the household! Could anyone offer any clues please? Many thanks Barbara

lived where he worked maybe? 4 of the 6 are inmates , not just Thomas - I would not have been surprise to see a tick in the disability column, but there isn't

Thanks Jess Its a possibility as all the household are down as frameworkers! Barbara

I can't find it on ancestry to check the image - is the reference you have given right? Is he mistranscribed on ancestry? Anyway, yes, framework knitters did live where they worked. You can still see one of the buildings at the Framework Knitters' Museum in Ruddington (Notts). Kate.

Folio number should be 319, not 219! (Well, on ancestry, anyway) Now I am waiting for the image to load... Kate.

is this the one you mean? View Record Elizabeth Elliott abt 1792 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire View Record Joseph Elliott abt 1803 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Head Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire View Record Thomas Hallam abt 1828 East Leake, Nottinghamshire, England Inmate Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire View Record Louisa Julian abt 1828 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Niece Nottingham St Mary Nottinghamshire If so thomas is listed as son but then crossed out and inmate wrote over it, and he is a Harness maker journeyman, not fwk. might he have been in prison cens night?? Julie

Sorry kate. it should be folio 319 page 6 on piece HO107/2128. I'll correct my original message as well. He's transcribed asThos Hallam abt 1829. Barbara

Had a look at the image now, and my guess is that George Summers was the man in charge of the group of framework knitters living in the cottage. I bet if you look 'framework knitters' or 'framework knitting' up on google you will find out lots of information about how they lived. Kate.

Julie Its not that one. The one I'm after was born at Kirkby-in-Ashfield (mistranscribed as Kirkby Ashd) abt 1829. Civil parish is Gedling Thanks Barbara

Thanks Kate that would seem to make sense. By the way there is a lot about framework knitters when you Google - already done that for another branch. Barbara

Inmate also appears in marriage registers, and means resident. Jay

Thanks Jay It would make sense in this case as well. Barbara

I have a vicar staying with one of my families and he is listed as inmate on the 1871 census - so I guess its a term that has changed in usage and as said, probably means someone living long term with a family but as a paying guest.

Thats what I like about these boards No matter what the query someone has come across the same thing previously and is willing to pass their experience on. I can see that someone working as a frameworkknitter in a house full of fwk's would be paying their way. Thanks for the input Heather. Barbara

I was advised by someone ages ago at the PRO that it can refer to people who were in the Poor House as well as people in hospitals and institutions. I have my gg grandfather living in a home for the poor (run by nuns) in 1901 and he is refered to as an inmate. Hope this helps. Good luck

I agree with Karen - often people who were in the Workhouse were 'out sourced' to various ratepayers, worked for their keep, but were still nominally the 'property' of the Workhouse. The Cotton and Woollen industries made very good use of this scheme. OC

Karen and OC my apologies for not acknowledging your posts last night. Thank you for your input I'll certainly remember the information given. Barbara

Thanks for the link Ann I'll go and have a look now. I seem to have a large number of framework knitters, all in the outlying districts of Nottingham. I've also come across another rellie (father in law to a framework knitter) whose shop was attacked during the revolts! Barbara

Thanks Eileen I was aware of that one - it just didn't seem to fit in this case! Barbara