Genealogy Chat

I think I tend to agree with you, Jim and Keith. The fact that the photo was of Novia Scotia, and coincidentally the 3rd Charybdis spent some time in Canada, seems to have been a red herring. Ah well! Cheers!

I am fairly sure that the Royal Navy would not have two ships of the same name in commisson at the same time. I think when a ship is disposed of, the name is removed.

Helen I'm not an expert but that looks like the 4th ship of that name Charybdis, † 1893 Type: Light Cruiser ; formerly Second Class Cruiser ; Armament 2 x 6' ; 8 x 4.7' ; 8 x 6 pdr ; 1 x 3 pdr 4 Mar 1900 Has been ordered home to Devonport, where her officers and crew will be turned over to the Charybdis, which will replace the Comus on the North America and West Indies station. Keith

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I've found a 1901photo of Charybdis in Novia Scotia and wondered if there's a chance that this might be the 3rd ship of that name, which is the one I'm interested in and was sold by then, or the 4th. If anyone knows the difference between a Screw Corvette and a Second Class Cruiser and could help me the web address is: http://www(.)gov(.)ns(.)ca/nsarm/virtual/royalnavy/archives.asp?ID=57 Many thanks.

Thank-you Keith, I've enjoyed looking at those sources.

Helen I'm sorry I should have added link www(.)pbenyon(.)plus(.)com/18-1900/C/C.html see also www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=106 Remove ( ) Keith

Wow lots of help! Thank-you Valerie, Jim and Gina for your input. Keith, where on earth did you find all that info? Jim, I've just looked at Wikipedia so thank-you for that. Phoenix, I've been to Kew looking up soldiers so will go again for my sailor! Paul, I'm just about to follow up your lead. Thanks to everyone for their kindness.

If you go on to the National Libtrary of Australia website you will find a picture of her: nla.pic-an5913997 PIC PIC T2458 NK1217 LOC6778 Farm Cove, Sydney, N.S.W., HMS Galatea, Challenger, Charybdis [picture]. 1868 Jan. 1 watercolour ; 30.2 x 42.5 cm.

Hi Helen If you can get to Kew, the odds are that you will be able to find out quite a lot. The log books should tell you where the ship went and what was happening on board, while another set of records provide details of the crew, often with physical descriptions. It's well worth looking at. (One of my ancestors was on board a ship which got holed under the waterline. They had to throw all the cannon and other heavy items overboard, then the crew had to rush from one end of the ship to the other, in an attempt to save it!)

HMS Charybdis From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Six ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Charybdis, after the sea monster Charybdis of Greek mythology. The first Charybdis was an 18-gun brig-sloop in use from 1809 to 1819. The second Charybdis was a 10-gun brig-sloop in use from 1831 to 1843. The third Charybdis was a screw corvette launched in 1859, loaned to Canada from 1880 to 1882, and sold 1884. The fourth Charybdis was a 2nd class cruiser launched in 1893, converted to a cargo ship in 1918 and sold to Bermuda in 1922. The fifth Charybdis was a cruiser launched in 1940 and sunk in the English Channel by German torpedo boats in 1943. The sixth Charybdis was a Leander-class frigate launched in 1968 and sunk as a target in 1993.

Hope this helps Charybdis, † 1859 Type: Corvette ; Armament 21 Completed ‡ : 1 Jun 1859 ; Disposal date or year § : 1884 BM: 1506 tons ; Displacement: 2187 tons Propulsion: Screw Machinery notes: 1472 hpi 400 hp Notes: 1860 Sheerness 19 Jun 1869 To Madeira. Flying Squadron, Part World Cruise, Particular Service, 30 guns 2 Jul 1869 Left Madeira for Bahia 2 Aug 1869 Arrived Bahia 4 Aug 1869 Left Bahia for Rio de Janeiro 16 Aug 1869 Arrived Rio de Janeiro 25 Aug 1869 Left Rio de Janeiro for Montevideo 6 Sep 1869 Arrived Montevideo 12 Sep 1869 Left Montevideo for Cape of Good Hope 1 Oct 1869 Arrived Cape of Good Hope 12 Oct 1869 Left Cape of Good Hope for Melbourne 20 Nov 1869 Arrived Melbourne 7 Dec 1869 Left Melbourne for Sydney 12 Dec 1869 Arrived Sydney 26 Dec 1869 Left Sydney for Hobart Town 2 Jan 1870 Arrived Hobart Town 10 Jan 1870 Left Hobart Town for Lyttleton 19 Jan 1870 Arrived Lyttleton 22 Jan 1870 Left Lyttleton for Wellington 24 Jan 1870 Arrived Wellington 27 Jan 1870 Left Wellington for Auckland 2 Feb 1870 Arrived Auckland 9 Feb 1870 Left Auckland for Yokohama 6 Apr 1870 Arrived Yokohama 14 Apr 1870 Left Yokohama for Yeddo 14 Apr 1870 Arrived Yeddo 17 Apr 1870 Left Yeddo for Yokohama 17 Apr 1870 Arrived Yokohama 19 Apr 1870 Left Yokohama for Vancouver's Island 15 May 1870 Arrived Vancouver's Island ------------------- 28 Aug 1870 Left Valparaiso for Bahia 6 Oct 1870 Arrived Bahia 9 Oct 1870 Left Bahia for England 15 Nov 1870 Arrived Plymouth Sound ------------------- 9 May 1877 Recommissioned at Hong Kong 1879 China 1880-1882 lent to Canadian govt as Training Ship Keith

Yes, that's true about ship's names being used over and over as my fathers ship in ww2 was the pathfinder and if you google it there are dozens of them going back years. Even planes use the names. Most confusing when your trying to find info on them. Gina in aus

thats interesting Jim I didnt know that .

The RN have a tradition of reusing the same name time and time again. A ship in the 1861 census would,probably, not have survived into the twentieth century.

BBC - Guernsey - About Guernsey - HMS CharybdisCharybdis Weekend is held in Guernsey each year to commemorate not only the sailors and marines who lost their lives, but also the bravery of the Islanders. (www.)bbc.(co.uk)/guernsey/content/articles/2004/10/06/hms_charybdis_feature.shtml - 28k - Cached - Similar pages remove brackets

HMS Charybdis The loss of and discovery of the wreckSpecialist underwater photography and technical diving dedicated to deep shipwreck exploration. (www.)deepimage.(co.uk)/wrecks/charybdis_limbourne/hms_charybdisdiverreport.htm - 44k - Cached - Similar pages remove brackets ,there is a lot of info if you google it

I've just been looking at the usual suspects on Ancestry and have found my ggg grandfather on board HMS Charybdis in 1861 as Sailmaker's Crew - he was a tailor in the next census. I'm trying to find info on the ship and know it fought off Perak, Malysia and 256 crew were given medals but how do I find out more?? Thanks with much anticipation!!