Genealogy Chat

When my father turned 40 he was informed that of his 5 brothers only 3 were whole brothers and 2 were half brothers. Apparently his mother had been married before she married my grandfather and had the two oldest children with the first husband. He passed away and my grandmother married my grandfather and had three more boys and a girl. I'm attempting to find either the marriage for my grandparents, my grandmothers first marriage (so I can find her first husband). And the birth records for my uncles which might help lead me to this first husband. I've been unable to find a marriage for my grandparents, even thinking that grandma may have been put down on the record with her first married name not maiden name. And I can't seem to find a record for my two older uncles Richard and Patrick. They would have been born sometime between 1945ish and 1953 which is the year my father came along. My grandparents also should have been married in this time frame as it would have been between Richards birth and my Fathers birth. Details for the family are : Mother Hannah Mary James b.1926 Unknown Father Patrick Gilbert oldest son Richard Gilbert youngest son Father William Roy Gilbert b.1926 Christopher Gilbert b. Aug 1953 Steven Gilbert b.1954/5 ish Colin Gilbert b. 1955/6 ish I'm guessing the oldest two would have been born with the unknown fathers last name. Either adopted or had a legal name change to my grandfathers last name. The family came from the West Ham area of London and ended up in Essex. I can't ask the living rellies about this as it's hush hush and none of the cousins, me included, is supposed to even know. Helen --x--

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