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Can anybody help me try and find out what happened to Selina Barber, ....i know she was born in Hull in 1844, she has a brother called Henry Charles Barber............he went on and moved to Scarborough and settled there. What happened to Selina...did she marry?, did she stay in Hull? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you, Mark

Mark....you can search for possible marriages for free on freebmd.org. You can also search the 1881 census at familysearch.org which is also free...Esta

There is this marriage on Ancestry which might be her:- Name: Selina Barber Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Hull County: Yorkshire Volume: 9d Page: 348 Spouse EITHER Waldemar Sahlgreen, OR Salisbury Renells Sanders. Kath. x

There is a possible marriage on FreeBMD for 1864 in Hull Maureen

Thank you for your help x

I think Waldemar married Emily Gibson as there is this family in 1871 Name: Waldemar Sahlgreen Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: N B, Denmark Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Humber ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4787; Folio: 111; Page: 13; GSU roll: 847344. Emily Waldemar age 25 1871 if Selina did marry Sanders then this could be a possible child Name: Salisbury R Sanders Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Kingston upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 71 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Miller 57 Salisbury R Sanders 6 Mary Thwaites 62 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4790; Folio: 67; Page: 12; GSU roll: 847346 but without certificates none of this can be proved Maureen

Maureen That look very likely.............the other thread Mark has running about this Selina shows her mother to be Margaret Miller......... Reg

Reggie, Thanks for your comments. Can not find Selina or either of the Salisburys on later census. Maureen

Just wondering if Selina got married again? Not sure this entry is fully transcribed. Marriages Mar 1868 Sanders Selina Sculcoates 9d 196 Thomas Smith Clarkson or John Hitchin

Hiya Maureen! How about this from 1901 Name: Salts R Sanders Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Clara A Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: St Ignatius County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 339 Household Members: Name Age Clara A Sanders 31 Mary Jane Sanders 9 Salts R Sanders 36 Sleana Sanders 6 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4714; Folio: 28; Page: 47. It doesn't say Salts........its Salby!

From FreeBMD Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Langley Joseph Hull 9d 450 Maples Clara Ann Hull 9d 450 SANDERS Salisbury Reynolds Hull 9d 450 Young Amelia Hull 9d 450

From FreeBMD again Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1891 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SANDERS Mary Jane Sculcoates 9d 146 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sanders Selina Sculcoates 9d 133

Not sure where this one fits into the picture! From Ancestry Name: Salisbury Reynolds Sanders Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 1 District: Shoreditch County: London Volume: 1c Page: 69 (click to see others on page)

Hi Jeanette Thank you for your postings..........it seems there must be a connection as Selina isnt a common name for a start!....it seems odd though that he would call his daughter in his second marriage the name of his first wife...? unless perhaps she died?

Hi Mark I think I've confused you a bit. All my fault.....sorry! The marriage is that of Selina's son Salisbury. I'd gone off track somewhat. But back to your original query......what happened to Selina? Well, Going back to Maureen's marriage suggestion of either Thomas Smith Clarkson or John Hitchin. How does this grab you from 1871 Name: Selena Hutching Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Kingston Upon Hull Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Kingston Upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 146 Household Members: Name Age Annie Hutching 6 Frances Hutching 12 Henry Hutching 5 months John Hutching 38 Margaret Hutching 1 Mary Hutching 10 Selena Hutching 28 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4789; Folio: 61; Page: 21; GSU roll: 847345. The image actually says Hitching. I think this is your Selina. If she didn't marry John until 1868, then I would think that the older children are his by a previous marriage, and Maragret and Henry are Selina and John's (Margaret after her mother and Henry after her borther) And by the way, I've got loads of Selina's. Perhaps it's a Yorkshire thing!

HHHmmmm interesting, thank you for that........and i think your right, it looks like she did remarry! hhhmmmmmm

Ok Mark.......email on its way! These births would seem to confirm that it is actually Hitchin From FreeBMD Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1869 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HITCHIN Margaret Frees Hull 9d 219 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1870 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hitchin Henry Charles Hull 9d 216 Right, I'll go and see if I can find them in later censuses

Well, I'm absolutely stumped Mark! I can't find any trace of Selina, John or the children in later censuses. All I did find were these 2 possible death entries on Ancestry View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Year of Registration Quarter of Registration District County View Image View Record Selina Hitchin abt 1845 1884 Jan-Feb-Mar Hull Yorkshire View Record Selina F Hitchin abt 1846 1911 Jul-Aug-Sep Blackburn Lancashire But of course, if Selina did get married again, neither of these will be her!

The Hull 1884 death would work.............she had the kids in the 60s and 70s i believe.