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1851 Look Up Please

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Fiona

Fiona Report 11 Jan 2007 14:42

Hi Tony, Do you have them on any other census, can you post the details of any children they might have with them? There seem to be 3 Mittons?? Little Mitton Lancashire Upper Mitton Worcestershire Great Mitton Yorkshire

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:43

I am trying to locate a Henry Hill 1817 and a Eliza 1821 in somewhere called Mitton if Possible Thank you in anticipation Tony

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jan 2007 14:45

Which county??? Born where, please? Reg

Fiona

Fiona Report 11 Jan 2007 14:48

This one? 1851 Name: Henry Hill Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Witley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Lindridge County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Tenbury Sub-registration district: Tenbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Hill 28 Henry Hill 35 Henry Hill 2 John Hill 5 Mo Ann Tido 14 Henry is an Agr Lab. Eliza Hill abt 1823 Pensax, Worcestershire, England Wife Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1816 Witley, Worcestershire, England Head Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1849 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire John Hill abt 1850 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire Ann Tido abt 1837 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Servant Lindridge Worcestershire

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:49

Possibly Upper Mitton Worcester as they originated around the Worcester area

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:50

Henry born in witley and eliza born in pensax Worcestershire

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Jan 2007 14:51

1851 Eliza Hill abt 1823 Pensax, Worcestershire, England Wife Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1816 Witley, Worcestershire, England Head Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1849 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire John Hill abt 1850 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire Henry occupation Ag. Lab

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:51

Soz i have just changed my name fron Anthony to Billy as everybody calls me that cause i play golf on my own a lot

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jan 2007 14:52

here they are..........Name: Henry Hill Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Witley, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Lindridge County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Tenbury Sub-registration district: Tenbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Hill 28 Henry Hill 35 Henry Hill 2 John Hill 5 Mo Ann Tido 14 Reg

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:56

Elaine did it give their ocupation as in 1861 they were both grocers

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 14:59

Sorry not those as in 1861 they had 4 children Edward 9, emma 6, Henry 3, george 1

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 15:00

in 1844 there marriage cert said they where residing in Mitton

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 15:03

Sorry if im confusing everybody its just the 1851 that i cant find 1861 Census Return Menith Wood, Lindridge Henry Hill Head Mar 45 Grocer Witley, Worcs Eliza “ Wife Mar 38 Grocer’s Wife Pensax “ Edward “ Son 9 Scholar Lindridge “ Emma “ Dau 6 “ Henry “ Son 3 “ George “ Son 1 “ 1871 Census Return Minith Wood, Lindridge Henry Hill Head Mar 55 Labourer Witley, Worcs Eliza “ Wife Mar 48 Shop Keeper Pensax “ Emma “ Dau Unm 16 “ Henry “ Son 13 “ George “ Son 11 “ 1881 Census Dwelling: Minith Wood. Census place: Pensax, Worcester, England. Source: FHL Film 1341697 PRO Reg RG11. Piece: 2908. Folio: 55. Page 8 Henry Hill M 64 General Labourer Witley, Worcester Eliza “ M 58 Pensax, Worcester Henry “ U 23 General Labourer Lindridge, Worcester George “ U 21 “ “ Thomas H Bradley 2 “

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jan 2007 15:05

The birthplaces of the couple in 1851 are identical to those you give for 1861............. The children with them in 1851 could have died..............the ones you list for 1861 wouldn't have been born in 1851. Where they lived in 1844 is no indication of where they might be in subsequent years.......... Reg

Fiona

Fiona Report 11 Jan 2007 15:07

So this is your 1861? Living in Lindridge same as 1851 family and same birth places as 1851 family?? They might have married in Mitton as this was where Eliza lived with her parents but that doesn't mean they stayed there. 1861. Name: Eliza Hill Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Pensax, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Lindridge County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Tenbury Sub-registration district: Bockleton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Edward Hill 9 Eliza Hill 38 Emma Hill 6 George Hill 1 Henry Hill 45 Henry Hill 3

Fiona

Fiona Report 11 Jan 2007 15:10

Hi Tony, It's ok, I don't think you've confused us. I think the 1851 family are the family your looking for. Fiona.

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Jan 2007 15:17

I think the 1851 family which we found is the right one. If you compare the 1851 and 1861 censuses there is William and Sarah Tolley living next door but one to them on BOTH censuses - which would lead me to think that they were living in the same house on both censuses.

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Jan 2007 15:29

Thanks for pm re children´s names This is the 1851 we found Eliza Hill abt 1823 Pensax, Worcestershire, England Wife Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1816 Witley, Worcestershire, England Head Lindridge Worcestershire Henry Hill abt 1849 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire John Hill abt 1850 Lindridge, Worcestershire, England Son Lindridge Worcestershire I have checked FreeBMD and there are deaths recorded for Henry Hill and John Hill in Tenbury(which is the registration district for Lindridge) - so MAYBE both Henry and John died before the 1861 census. This is your 1861 Henry Hill Head Mar 45 Grocer Witley, Worcs Eliza “ Wife Mar 38 Grocer’s Wife Pensax “ Edward “ Son 9 Scholar Lindridge “ Emma “ Dau 6 “ Henry “ Son 3 “ George “ Son 1 “ All the children listed here were born after 1852 so would not have shown on the 1851 census. Do you have the marriage certificate for the parents? - if so what was Henry´s occupation at the time of his marriage.

Billy

Billy Report 11 Jan 2007 16:25

Henrys occupation at the time of marraige was a labourer

Elaine

Elaine Report 11 Jan 2007 16:28

- his occupation in the 1851 census I found was Ag.Lab - and then by 1861 he was a grocer. I still think the 1851 is right!